Yes on Prop 8, pt. 5

A Californian gives her reasons for voting 'yes' on Proposition 8. © 2008 Prop8Supporter, All Rights Reserved

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[muellerican]

Religious freedom is freedom to believe FOR YOURSELF, not for everybody else. Some Churches, Synagogues and Temples celebrate same-sex marriage. Some people are agnostics or atheists or interfaith. So if two people of the same sex want to get married and that falls into their own religious beliefs or morals they should be able to get married. IF WE UPHELD RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. Our government should not be defining religious relationships nor kinship on religious grounds. Hitler already did that

[sparkylovesmangos]

your right, it doesnt take away any rights from gay people.

they just never had the rights in the first place! NO on prop 8

[TN4eva1101]

She states "different oppinion...[she] believes in something different...it's important to express [them]."

However, even though I support gay marriage, I don't go around forcing straight people to marry the same-sex. if you want to marry the opposite sex, go for it.

Voting yes on 8 is not just expressing a belief but using your belief to physically restrict a group of people from gaining public access to something you have freely available. I don't see how that is fair or correct.

[TN4eva1101]

What is considered to be "family values?" And does family values solely comes from a married man and woman?

By restricting Marriage to be between a man and a woman, how does this maintain family values?

High divorce rates, adultery, polygamy, child abuse, child neglect, child abandonment, and so many other factors all emerge from heterosexual couples.

Instead of denying the gay community marriage, we should be working harder to repair damages of these values through other efficient mean.

[dudeboobs15]

There is no such thing as separate but equal!!

marriage-domestic partnership?

[Aegius]

@bookwormsrcool I pointed out how people like you insulted me and Blacks far more than anything I did toward you now.

You played the race card. You demeaned and insulted Blacks in their struggles and horrors that they endured. You made the idiotic and ridiculous comparison between not allowing same-sex marriage with not allowing interracial marriage which was insulting to me and to Blacks. You are far worse of insulting than I am, by a long shot. You are a race-baiter.

[bookwormsrcool]

@Aegius You know it shows that someone is not confident in their argument when they start insulting people. Again, thanks for the colorful compliments!

[Aegius]

@bookwormsrcool & you want to talk insults. You played the race card in this debate. It is dishonest, manipulative, and despicable. Race has nothing to do with this issue, yet proponents of same sex marriage inject race into it all the time. You insult and demean Blacks in the horrors that they faced and struggles that they endured for REAL rights, when comparing this struggle for a non-existent right. There is no right to marriage including to the same sex. You have insulted me & Blacks a lot.

[Aegius]

Further comparing not allowing interracial marriage to not allowing same-sex marriage is stupid. There is no comparison. A man & woman of different races can produce kids and raise them as mom & dad. 2 men or 2 women of any racial background can't do either. Race has nothing to do with the ideal of father/mother/kids nor to change it to 2 moms/kids or 2 dads/kids as equally ideal to dad/mom/kids. It's further insulting to Blacks as well to make such a ridiculous comparison.

[Aegius]

@bookwormsrcool Re your debates: you keep dumping race into this. Race is irrelevant and gays have no business comparing their situation in 2010 to Blacks in 1960. It's demeaning and insulting to the real horrors that Blacks faced and struggles for real rights that the fought for. Marriage isn't a right. They fought for real rights: vote, sit on juries, and crimes recognized as such. That is where your stupidity in part comes from: & stating psychological differences via race. It's moronic.

[Aegius]

Murphy's Law always happens. So what? You don't dismiss ideals due to Murphy's Law, or you won't have ideals. Divorce is Murphy's Law. Besides break-ups, et al occur with gays too, so it is irrelevant.

Now regarding idiots who see Mom & Dad as not the ideal for kids, yes, they are fools as they see no difference between the sexes or the different contributions and needs that can be provided to kids that ONLY both a Mom & Dad can provide.