For those saying that the newest sea-skimming anti-ship missiles(Russian Sunburn missile?) would easily sink an Iowa, I will mention one point. A typical battleship armor scheme is designed to defeat the ship's own guns. A 16" gun shell travels at roughly 2000 mph, and carries 750 lbs of explosive behind a hardened penetrator. The new sunburn anti-ship missile, carries 750lbs of explosive, travels at 1400 mph. The ship was built to withstand such a thing. Am I missing something here?
@EntropicMisanthropic The same principal holds true for gun shells; HE shells are designed to destroy soft targets, and AP shells are designed to destroy hard targets. Same thing with anti-personnel weapons; Hollow point bullets work great against guys wearing t-shirts, and full metal jacketed bullets work best against guys wearing armor vests.
@EntropicMisanthropic So you're saying that even though there are no battleships left in service anywhere on Earth, the russians and chinese are still designing and building missiles to defeat battleship armor? I would think modern missile designers would design missiles to sink modern warships. A missile designed to sink soft targets (carriers) is a different design than a missile designed to sink hard targets(battleships)
Super carriers don't have rolled homogeneous steel armor. While it wouldn't be fool proof, a battleship is much more able to take damage than a carrier (due to the thickness of internal bulkheads).
We have plenty of ability to down supersonic anti-ship missiles:
@EntropicMisanthropic er, I should say the Iowas were intentionally left to rust in order to break the power of the battleship admirals while still also humoring the Marines, who were the ones who really needed the Iowas the most for amphib assaults. The powder was left to degenerate in the hot sun on tarped barges until it eventually caused a 16 inch gun to blow up, and then the Navy said "Oops, seems they're just too unsafe and too much trouble to keep around!". Worked out perfectly for them.
Winning
TheKaliner 5 hours ago
@AmericanThunder yes, the damage of armor penetration
jackets298 6 days ago
I'M ON A BOAT!
LegoRobot17 6 days ago
Damn birds can't shit on my ship again.
Fun4uitstrue 1 week ago 2
For those saying that the newest sea-skimming anti-ship missiles(Russian Sunburn missile?) would easily sink an Iowa, I will mention one point. A typical battleship armor scheme is designed to defeat the ship's own guns. A 16" gun shell travels at roughly 2000 mph, and carries 750 lbs of explosive behind a hardened penetrator. The new sunburn anti-ship missile, carries 750lbs of explosive, travels at 1400 mph. The ship was built to withstand such a thing. Am I missing something here?
AmericanThunder 1 week ago in playlist military stuff
@EntropicMisanthropic The same principal holds true for gun shells; HE shells are designed to destroy soft targets, and AP shells are designed to destroy hard targets. Same thing with anti-personnel weapons; Hollow point bullets work great against guys wearing t-shirts, and full metal jacketed bullets work best against guys wearing armor vests.
AmericanThunder 1 week ago in playlist military stuff
@EntropicMisanthropic So you're saying that even though there are no battleships left in service anywhere on Earth, the russians and chinese are still designing and building missiles to defeat battleship armor? I would think modern missile designers would design missiles to sink modern warships. A missile designed to sink soft targets (carriers) is a different design than a missile designed to sink hard targets(battleships)
AmericanThunder 1 week ago in playlist military stuff
KABOOOOOMMM!!!!!
Whaty80 1 week ago
@EntropicMisanthropic
Super carriers don't have rolled homogeneous steel armor. While it wouldn't be fool proof, a battleship is much more able to take damage than a carrier (due to the thickness of internal bulkheads).
We have plenty of ability to down supersonic anti-ship missiles:
RIM-174 Standard ERAM
RIM-161 Standard Missile 3
RIM-162 ESSM
Phalanx CIWS
RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile
310eraser 2 weeks ago
@EntropicMisanthropic er, I should say the Iowas were intentionally left to rust in order to break the power of the battleship admirals while still also humoring the Marines, who were the ones who really needed the Iowas the most for amphib assaults. The powder was left to degenerate in the hot sun on tarped barges until it eventually caused a 16 inch gun to blow up, and then the Navy said "Oops, seems they're just too unsafe and too much trouble to keep around!". Worked out perfectly for them.
EntropicMisanthropic 2 weeks ago