http://wazooloo.com http://ianjuby.org In this rant, Ian deals with the "poor design" argument that so many anti-creationists like to tout. Intelligent design is show to be the superior explanation.
@AndyG792 Not sure where you went to school and I really doubt that it was claimed that it always meant useless as simply looking in the dictionary completely contradicts that. Sure it can serve a function, but it's a non-original function.
@TheScienceFoundation Every single time we talked about vestigial organs in class, it ALWAYS meant completely functionless and served no purpose today. We were taught that they were organs that used to have a function but no longer did. Well, one by one, each of these vestigial organs have been shown to be fully functional and serve a purpose today.
@TheScienceFoundation I don't even know how to respond to your twisting of the English language and grammar. What does atrophied, abortive, or rudimentary mean? Perhaps spending a few moments in your grade school grammar book will suffice to clear up the confusion. Nevertheless, you need to stop dancing attempting to dance between the rain drop and abandon your contrived definition of "vestigial." You discrediting yourself by using philosophy vs. facts to make your argument.
@3AngelDefense1844 'The term vestigial is used in anatomy as being more convenient in describing those parts generally known as rudimentary, abortive, atrophied, or USELESS'
or : used as a function word to indicate an alternative.
@TheScienceFoundation "Rudimentary organs are those that were once functional at some point in phylogeny, but are retained in current species as useless or near-useless vestiges. Such rudiments in humans include the wisdom teeth, certain muscles for moving or twitching the skin, and the vermiform appendix."—Kent G. Bailey, Human Paleopsychology: applications to aggression and pathological processes, (Hillsdale, NJ: Lawrence Erlbaum Associates, 1987), 19
@AndyG792 Why would that be? I'm posting actual science.
TheScienceFoundation 1 week ago
@AndyG792 Not sure where you went to school and I really doubt that it was claimed that it always meant useless as simply looking in the dictionary completely contradicts that. Sure it can serve a function, but it's a non-original function.
TheScienceFoundation 1 week ago
@TheScienceFoundation Is this really a science foundation? I find it hard to believe that this is a science foundation by your answers.
AndyG792 1 week ago
@TheScienceFoundation Every single time we talked about vestigial organs in class, it ALWAYS meant completely functionless and served no purpose today. We were taught that they were organs that used to have a function but no longer did. Well, one by one, each of these vestigial organs have been shown to be fully functional and serve a purpose today.
AndyG792 1 week ago
@TheScienceFoundation I don't even know how to respond to your twisting of the English language and grammar. What does atrophied, abortive, or rudimentary mean? Perhaps spending a few moments in your grade school grammar book will suffice to clear up the confusion. Nevertheless, you need to stop dancing attempting to dance between the rain drop and abandon your contrived definition of "vestigial." You discrediting yourself by using philosophy vs. facts to make your argument.
3AngelDefense1844 2 months ago
@3AngelDefense1844 Your citation still depends on vestigial meaning solely functionless, it doesn't and your own source contradicts that.
TheScienceFoundation 2 months ago
@3AngelDefense1844 'The term vestigial is used in anatomy as being more convenient in describing those parts generally known as rudimentary, abortive, atrophied, or USELESS'
or : used as a function word to indicate an alternative.
Notice it doesn't say 'and'
TheScienceFoundation 2 months ago
@TheScienceFoundation "Rudimentary organs are those that were once functional at some point in phylogeny, but are retained in current species as useless or near-useless vestiges. Such rudiments in humans include the wisdom teeth, certain muscles for moving or twitching the skin, and the vermiform appendix."—Kent G. Bailey, Human Paleopsychology: applications to aggression and pathological processes, (Hillsdale, NJ: Lawrence Erlbaum Associates, 1987), 19
3AngelDefense1844 2 months ago