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No, I see this pretty often and it is treated as a norm. However, when I do see it its generally when I'm on campus or when I'm outside of the south.
I don't have tv service, so I can't say that I see it there.
As far as the "boys club" comment, I didn't specifically say it was one, I put it in quotes because I could see how someone might THINK it is given the attitude toward and about women in the place I work.
Simple. My rights end at the tip of your nose...and vice versa. Should that child be born, however, my rights are EXACTLY equal to yours too, which means in a "custody battle" - even at birth - there is a presumption of shared custody..50/50, immediately.
I have no control or decision on a woman's choice to keep or abort a child. It isn't my body and woman aren't slaves or livestock (not that I want them to be) so I have no say in the issue.
Also, Factory, I'm sorry if I misunderstood you I didn't intend for that to happen. I do however happen to agree with you, though.
I mean, I could understand if MRA's were pushing for men's specific gender roles to change. Like being able to show and explain their emotions better. Or supporting stay at home fathers. Or getting away from chivalry (if they believe it puts a woman above them). But that's not what I see. I see MRA's preaching about how they want their power back or how they miss "the good old days". Well I'm sorry, in the good old days I had no rights, so how am I supposed to support a group like that?
You only see that because that's what you CHOOSE to see.
What I see are a group of men asking why something is OK for women, and yet not OK for men. Or wondering why men are never talked about nicely in the media (it seems). Or why we have to apologize for having opinions contrary to feminists...
You support MRA's doing things that YOU want from men, not what men want for themselves. And THAT, my dear, is why you don't support us.
You dont agree men CHOOSE to be discriminated against? Like by choosing not to take a more active role in child-rearing, the courts will most likely favor the person that does (the mom). Or, if you choose to carry a woman's boxes. Or if you choose to stay on the Titanic. And so on. As for me, I cant really CHOOSE not to play professional football...thats "just the way it is". My point being, women dont choose to be discrimated against. However, since we live in a man's world, men do.
"You dont agree men CHOOSE to be discriminated against?"
As much as women CHOOSE to be raped.
Men almost always IMMEDIATELY lose their rights to their children during divorce. Even before the case is heard (Ex Parte restraining orders need no hearing).
My credentials:
I am a full-time single dad. I don't get child support. I get along WELL with my ex-wife. I am a child support caseworker.
Factory is 100% correct...Obviously, I have no horse in this race. I can be objective.
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Just thought I'd point that out.
Carry on.
I don't have tv service, so I can't say that I see it there.
As far as the "boys club" comment, I didn't specifically say it was one, I put it in quotes because I could see how someone might THINK it is given the attitude toward and about women in the place I work.
Also, I'm leaning towards the isolated side of this as I'm absolutely certain I did not imagine these occurrence.
THAt is what equality looks like.
Also, Factory, I'm sorry if I misunderstood you I didn't intend for that to happen. I do however happen to agree with you, though.
But that's not what I see. I see MRA's preaching about how they want their power back or how they miss "the good old days".
Well I'm sorry, in the good old days I had no rights, so how am I supposed to support a group like that?
What I see are a group of men asking why something is OK for women, and yet not OK for men. Or wondering why men are never talked about nicely in the media (it seems). Or why we have to apologize for having opinions contrary to feminists...
You support MRA's doing things that YOU want from men, not what men want for themselves. And THAT, my dear, is why you don't support us.
As for me, I cant really CHOOSE not to play professional football...thats "just the way it is". My point being, women dont choose to be discrimated against. However, since we live in a man's world, men do.
"You dont agree men CHOOSE to be discriminated against?"
As much as women CHOOSE to be raped.
Men almost always IMMEDIATELY lose their rights to their children during divorce. Even before the case is heard (Ex Parte restraining orders need no hearing).
My credentials:
I am a full-time single dad. I don't get child support. I get along WELL with my ex-wife. I am a child support caseworker.
Factory is 100% correct...Obviously, I have no horse in this race. I can be objective.