Tai Chi Push Hand (Hock & Hong)

How to deflect a force ...?

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[hiucf]

He is soft and song but trained wrongly. This kind of taichi cannot stand-up in real fight and lost its martial prowess. The wavy body and totally lack of defence, i.e. letting opponent touch the body contradicted traditional taichi tenet as a martial art. Double push hand is meant for connecting with the opponent while controling his elbow attack, guard centerline and accumulate power in the root while neautralized, all these are missing here. Good recreation but not real taichi.

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[piaten]

@hiucf Dead wrong! This is a valid interpretation of Taiji. At a certain stage of my training, I worked a lot with this waving (and still do a little bit almost every day) -benefits the spine tremendously, as well as teaching certain leverage and yielding principles. At the higher levels levels, other principles also come into play, and the wave usually becomes less obvious.

[HCDeathscythe]

@taichijunfan1973

If you mean by "fingerjabbing" the throat/eyes,not everyone will be able to kill/blind a person with that technique.

Tai chi chuan is so much more then just formbased techniques, you can improvise and combine with other martial arts

[martialartsforlife]

Awesome! This master has the root, and the heals never come up under pressure, and willing to be touched on his body to empty the incoming force. It's not meant to break bones or choke. It's just push hand exercise. People who don't understand can ask what he's doing, instead of criticizing for nothing.

[JazzRastaf]

very real, two people wresting...

[rekcufeht]

you should look into taiji more closely. taiji is often associated with being soft because of how the patterns are played. but in essence the "rou" in taiji is to flow. also, due to the heavy influence of yang taiji and taiji for health, the general public sees taiji as deflection. but in actual fact a taiji man does not have to redirect at all if he chooses not to. look up chen taiji. it is flowing but explosive. english interpretation has resulted in a misunderstanding of the chinese word soft

[Ankoku15]

Actually, push hands would work in a real world situation

Would it work in an mma fight? no... but how many professional cage fighters do you run into on a daily basis lol

Martial arts teach balance as a fundamental (i.e. how to not throw your center of gravity off while attacking) so its only natural that an art that preys on redirecting that normally uncontrolled energy will not perform well against another martial art

but against a raging drunk at a bar this could probably whoop their ass

[sunbin64]

This is an example of what modern "push hands" has degenerated into. What they are doing has no real world application. Training like this will not help you learn how to deal with real world attacks. Perhaps you could view this as a stage of learning about how to redirect someone's force. But the attacks are unrealistic. If you can only do this, you'll get your lights punched out.

[sicorod]

Is always better to try than to do nothing, but you must focus in this: "The enemy wants to change, but does not get to change; wants to attack, but doesnt get a chance; wants to evade, but has no escape. To put it more simply, this is the highest stage of gongfu. If its just a matter of carelessly striking and randomly improvising (manda manpin), thats not taijiquan. Although one might call it taijiquan, in fact it is not". from Master Wu Tunan

[ssj7gokurpg]

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