Ravi Zacharias: Apologist in Error? (Part 2)

Here's is Part 2 of this video series.

Category:

Education

Tags:

• Christitnity
• Apologetics
• Ravi
• Zacharias
• Atheism
• Feminism
• Bible
• Morality

[howtogetsaved]

altho no atheist can argue against God at all, in any way, since atheism denies & rejects logic, reason, truth, lies, freewill, value, purpose, personhood & morality since, in atheism, due to naturalism & materialism. we're simply machines of matter constructed by a dna molecule in space & time made by & obeying physics. atheism is the epitome of ALL evil...for it doesnt even sustain or contain ANY good, evil, value, purpose, freewill & personhood. THAT! is the epitome of all evil.

[BassP86]

@howtogetsaved

Well whereas I agree with you and atheism is not, in and of itself, designed to give any propositional content, that in NO way implies atheism is the epitome of evil. As Christians, it is no different for us to to call atheism evil then Muslims to say that all non-believers are infidels. It doesn't solve anything, nor does it accomplish anything apart from breeding hatred, and THAT is the TRUE epitome of evil.

(cont.)

[howtogetsaved]

every atheists arguments against God ARE dead. they never were alive. if there is no absolute standard of morals, personhood & logic, then their subjective. & if their subjective, there might as well not be none. why? THEIR ALL! JUST AS VALID, RIGHTEOUS, HOLY, TRUE & PERFECT AS ANY OTHER! THEREFORE, WHAT REAL ARGUMENT CAN ANY1 HAV FOR OR AGAINST ANY1? WHEN GOD, IF ATHEISM BE TRUE, IS JUST AS VALID, RIGHTEOUS, HOLY, TRUE & PERFECT AS YOU! I LOVE IT! A+++ TO JESUS! AMEN! ITS WIN BY DEFAULT!!

[BassP86]

@howtogetsaved

(cont.)

Atheism is not inherently evil, it is only a product of evil. Therefore be VERY, VERY careful in your words when discussing atheism, because if you continue to base your critical thinking based on this ideology you're presenting, it will distort your overall view of people who are atheists, and therefore effect how you treat them as individuals.

(cont.)

[BassP86]

@howtogetsaved

(cont.)

Don't get me wrong. There's nothing wrong with saying that atheism offers no rational basis to make sense of things, but it's completely different to say that a lack of rationality is what makes atheism evil and therefore atheists can't be good. Think about it. How would atheists perceive that? To them it means you believe they are evil too, which I'm sure you & I agree is not true. Atheists CAN be good people, but they can't justify why that is the case. Big difference.

[quakerman7]

Watching Ravi's videos (and Michael Ramsden, John Lennox) it is becoming easier to spot logical fallacies - my fav is the self-defeating statement. 'Everything is relative', 'There are some things we cannot know.', 'There is no God and He is an evil bastard.' I love it. BassP86, your education is what? Your arguments are awesome. If only the weight of a good debate could actually change people (not the audience). It would be a kick to see one of the New Atheists convert 75% of way through.

[howtogetsaved]

i didnt assume ur inteligent. i assumed u r against God. which alot if not all of you contradicts The Bible like that website u posted. ur Christian? i couldnt tell. my argument isn't ignorant. i simply applied it falsely. im sory. its perfectly valid against an atheist. but if u are a believer, then it does some good & it doesnt matter. atheism must. evolution is the only way life got here in atheism. & evolution is not flawless it is a pure flaw. i have a pdf + mor to prove it

[BassP86]

@chrismrulz

"But now that you mention it, you are retarding humanity itself." - Please refrain from using comments in video boards that show disrespect to other people, even if you think they are wrong in what they are doing.

[chrismrulz]

@howtogetsaved You've assumed I'm an atheist because I'm intelligent, which is ironic.

I'm just a christian that happens to not be close-minded.

My thesis is debating AGAINST evolution the entire way, but you've just put me in a position where I need to defend it because your argument was ignorant.

Atheists don't BELIEVE in evolution, they have almost flawless scientific evidence.

But they have a presupposition that their knowledge is justified, even though it comes from a subjective reality.

[howtogetsaved]

ok just making sure. & it had all the relevance in the world, had u have actually read it, all. u & ur link assumes the existence of personhood, meaning, purpose, good & evil, moral law, the mind, reason, truth & freewill. which, atheism does & can not provide. which is what my link was about. to point out that u, ur arguments, & ur link, are debunked totally. & y cant i? if The Bible is right... & well, arent u close to apes? doesnt matter what u evolved from. the point was u believe u evolved.

[chrismrulz]

WTF. I especially didn't say God is my enemy.

The links you sent me had no contextual relevance to anything I've talked with you about, or the link to my thesis.

You can't just say things because they involve the use of a biblical reference all the time.

How you have managed to survive all this time when challenged with objectives such as not scalding yourself with hot water eludes me.

You're giving atheists closer references to apes being our common ancestor just by being alive. Stop that.

[chrismrulz]

@howtogetsaved You didn't prove anything. Nowhere did that verse command you to quote bible verses in anyone's face, and I didn't say anyone is not righteous.

I said, "A does not equal B. Prove that A = B."

You said, "That's not true. Because X = Z and F = G. I can prove you're wrong. T=T."

You are not my enemy, I was formally debating you as a fellow Christian.

But now that you mention it, you are retarding humanity itself. People like you are why more people are becoming atheists daily.

[howtogetsaved]

Psalms 45:7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: - Romans 3:10

well...u r wrong. i can prove it. & u dont need to be rude. i am NOT your enemy & neither, especially, is God. †♥

+ ur link is wrong. & i can prove that 2 using your own belief. i cant send the link to u via comment, so i'll send it to u via PM.

[chrismrulz]

@howtogetsaved No we aren't. Nowhere does the bible say that. Ever.

This is the problem with christianity. People adding their own ritualistic bullshit.

"We are commanded to quote shit from the bible at you and tell you you're wrong because you are wrong."

It would be like someone telling you that unicorns with dildos on their heads command you to repent.

If they gave you a reason for magic dildo unicorns existing, you might listen though. I try to do that.

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