Wynton Marsalis Talks with Charlie Rose
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I am a young person who grew up with kids embedded in hip hop. Today's hip-hop is wrong and horrible, it sends kids wrong messages and it has the worse psychological stronghold of any music.
Hip Hop musicians defend their chavunists and savage lyrics and behavior of the guise of being "real".
Hip Hop/Rap has changed a lot the past 20 years and a lot of it due to corporate control and music industry creating clowns like 50 cent, Snoop Dogg former drug deals to be idols of today's youth.
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@shanrico bullshit argument. you dont have to be an innovator in order to criticize something intelligently.
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right on the money.
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@shanrico hip hop is a sub culture that is the worst thing to happen in 25 years.
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he likes big butts and he cannot lie
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@shanrico i think wynton was referring to what hip hop/rap is shown in the mainstream. You cant tell me that the good hip hop and rap is any where near a majority of what people listen to. most music today that gets the attention and is the focal point is not based off good musical ideas. they cant sing there are no harmonies etc. some of them cant perform outside a studio, they sound awful live. a lot of it has no lasting value. i say that because after a year or 2 its on to the next thing
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Wynton has created LESS innovation to Black and Art and Culture, than countless Hip Hop artists. Wynton has not "invented" any new form or "sound". He mastered many styles - from Duke Ellington to Wayne Shorter style early 60's hard bop. He's a brilliant technician, competent composer and arranger, and a scholar. But he is not an innovator. Guru/Premiere were innovators. He can promote his activities without disparaging other important contribution. He's not "old" because of age but his rhetoric
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The musical innovation and complexity of Gangstarr, Tribe Called Quest, Roots, Black Star -- the powerful evolution of spoken word that has grown out of and connected to Hip Hop is a major cultural contribution. If not for Hip Hop, 1000's of people who got turned on to Jazz would not have occured as their entry point was through samples and hybrid projects. Hip Hop is THE most important "new" genre to emerge in the last 25 years worldwide. And as great a scholar and musician as Wynton is....
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When American Jazz elevated to a more sophisticated "art music", it left the popular realm. Other things came along to replace it. Blues, Boogie Woogie, eventually rock, soul, disco -- and Hip Hop came along and took over the continuation. It became the music of the people. Telling the story, dance-able, accessible. Jazz like Classical has evolved to a non-popular art-form. After 30+ years of Hip Hop, its ignorant to sum it up in a few statements. There is no "one Hip Hop" ...
Brotha Marsalis U speak the truth, especially when u said "Most adults want to defend it because they don't want to seem NOT HIP & not part of it!"
EXACTLY! A lot of parents try to be their kids best friends rather than teach & lead. Yet They're in denial because they deny the debouchery in the "majority" of the music. Some ppl pull excuses out of their ass to JUSTIFY the negative messages & images. Mr. Marsalis you've got good intentions & you're an example of a strong Black man. Peace brotha
JazzyZenBrotha 1 year ago 15
Hip hop is motherfucking bullshit ok?
Those singers cant do shit and they are bad role models to stupid teenagers
thats why thats fucking drugs everywhere and STDs
TheHibaris 2 years ago 10