Re: A call to Tawheed (oneness of Allah)

A (very) short comparison/contrast of the concepts of God in Christianity and Islam.

Trinity in the OT:

http://www.biblicalresources.info/pages/ot1/trinityot.html

Logical exposition on the Trinity:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Trinity/beckwith.html

I'd like to credit Andy Bannister, James R. White and Frank Beckwith for their labors-of-love, all to honor the God of the Bible...my prayers go out to all of you daily, gentlemen, and to those who we need to reach with the Gospel...the Muslims of the world.

For EstablishingTawheed, who seems to think that distraction is the same as refutation, each of your cut/pasting of the alledged contradictions you have used to spam my video are answered below. Please read this prior to continuing, or your posts will be marked as spam:

http://debate.org.uk/topics/apolog/contrads.htm

And...try to stay on topic, please.

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[stronzo5785]

@Adelown, where, exactly, did Jesus teach that He isn't God? Entire books have been written about Jesus' claim to divinity, and you will erase all that scholarship with one unsubstantiated assertion...time for you to prove that Jesus didn't claim to be God the Son.

You continue to play with semantics. Jesus clearly stated that He came to fulfill "the law," not "confirm the law." Can you quote where Jesus taught that He came to "confirm the law?"

[Adelown]

@stronzo5785 all that is in the new testament. Why would Jesus preach something totally different than all the other prophets of God? There is also evidence from the New Testament that Jesus isn't God like when he says he doesn't have the power to do anything besides what God allows him to do that is in one or more of the gospels, and there is a whole section about how he was sent to confirm what the previous prophets came with (the law)

[stronzo5785]

@Adelown, I agree with you, and the OT, that, "the LORD our God is one." I disagree with you that there are only a "couple references" to the tri-personal structure of God in the gospels. Matt. 3:16-17, 28:19, Mk. 1:9-11, Luke 3:21-22 are but some of the references where the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are seen or mentioned in reference to God.

Paul, Peter, and John continued this teaching through the rest of the NT, and each of these men were well versed in OT theology...they saw no conflict.

[stronzo5785]

@Adelown, you introduced the "exact word" argument, and you're just repeating it...again and again. The word "tawheed" isn't in the Quran, and the word "trinity" isn't in the Bible.

Repeating your argument over and over again only irritates and bores people...

[stronzo5785]

@Adelown, God did exist before the Roman Empire. The "plural of majesty," where a leader speaks on behalf of his people in a third-person plural, first appeared in Byzantine writings.

"Elohim" is a first-person plural, and is only used by God about Himself. It appears in the very first sentence of Genesis, the first book of the OT. "Elohim" is not a "plural of majesty."

[stronzo5785]

@Adelown, coulda swore I said it right, but you're entitled to your opinion.

It's interesting that when I solidly refute your argument (the one about the word "trinity" not appearing in the Bible, remember?), you change your premise.

Complex unity exists in nature, and God made man in His image and likeness. That is my central premise, I supported it handily, and you didn't touch any of the points in the video, save the "exact words" argument, which is pretty weak...

[Adelown]

@stronzo5785 Where as after reading the Bible, more of the first 1000 pages talks about worshiping God alone, He has no co equals, he is NOT A MAN OR THE SON OF MAN, He is one, There is no one like Him, it says ALL THAT in that Bible, than with a couple references in the Gospels, and the clear Blasphemy at the last 50 to a hundred pages talking about Jesus being God or the Holy Spirit being God and then people take the last 50 pages as truth rather than the first 1000 or so pages!

[Adelown]

@stronzo5785 2. Surat Iklas, Say He is Allah the one; Allahu Samad All of the creation needs Him but He needs none of the creation; He begets not nor is He begotten; And there is no one co-equal or comparable to him

And all the verses that talk about God not being a human being, God not having sons or daughters or MOTHERS, God denying your trinity, God saying to worship Him alone, Hanif (monotheism), etc

Tawheed is just a word to explain the monotheism throughout the Quran in one word

[Adelown]

@stronzo5785 1. the very first time you said it, it was wrong. Seeing that you cannot even say the words tells you how Islamicly educated you are.

2. Whether it does or not the Quran doesn't need to. Tawheed is the concept of worshiping only one God no tricks. The concept of Tawheed is explained throughout the ENTIRE Quran! "La illa ila Huwa" "None has the right to be worshiped but He"

"La illa ila La" None has the right to be worshiped but Allah

[Adelown]

@stronzo5785 because Romans didn't INVENT the plural of majesty. If it was used by God I think God existed before the Roman Empire don't you think so!?