True Woman 08 Conference

What if ... women returned to God's purpose for their lives, and expressed the beauty and wonder of true womanhood? What if you we What if ... women returned to God's purpose for their lives, and expressed the beauty and wonder of true womanhood? What if you were a vital part of advancing that movement in your world?

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[clintpyr]

Those who are enemies of God will bring up any red herring they can to divert and scoff.

Piper's lectures are excellent. What we need is churches where families are like this - where men are self-sacrificial and thus their wives can trust and respect them and as Psalm 128 says their family flourishes - when we have this, you can hardly keep people out of the church - because they see the truth of the Gospel in people's homes, in their families, in their lives the Household of God.

[wowoak]

How in the world did gay marriage get into this? If you're living the gay lifestyle then I doubt you would even care about what God wants.

[Imaginefree69]

"when a father is present a child is less likely to suffer from social and psychology problems"

What a great argument for gay marriage!

Between two men, I mean.

[Fr33artist]

I have a number of studies and reports on this. But the point is, statistics will show that when a father is present a child is less likely to suffer from social and psychology problems, I don't give a damn if you doubt that fact or not because you're questioning nature here not patriarchy.

I'm tired of feminists insisting they know what's better for children and families when THEY have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to prove their claims.

[jortylbro]

Wow, do you have the study which has analyzed every potential other factor, or you just making stuff up on the spot?

"I don't think homosexual couples can provide the same environment as heterosexual couples"

Your personal opinion doesn't count as a legitimate reason to judge parents based on their sexuality alone.

"you will observe different outcomes in children bought up by lesbian/gay parents."

Even if this were true, you would need to show it's causation, not just correlation.

[Fr33artist]

Even when you adjust for; SES, time mother spends with children, other male role models and siblings this trend along with other negative trends has still been observed. I don't think homosexual couples can provide the same environment as heterosexual couples, that doesn't mean they're inferior but that you will observe different outcomes in children bought up by lesbian/gay parents. That may not be a politically correct statement but it's a socially observed one.

[jortylbro]

In order to blame the lack of fatherhood as being the cause of bad childhoods, you need to adjust for other factors. The mother has to work and so the children won't get as much parental attention. Many single mothers are less financially secure. The family is more likely to have had a death of or an abusive parental figure.

Do you think that a lesbian couple would not make good parents since they are lacking a father figure?

[Fr33artist]

Traditional motherhood has always been The Cornerstone to society and its health. It's only now that people are starting to realize that.

But that said, a single mother still cannot be the equivalent of both a father and mother. Why are 85% of male prisoners bought up in single mother families? They literally, not metaphorically, NEED a father figure.

Child psychologists will slam you down with evidence if you think there is a better alternative to a father-mother presence in a household.

[jortylbro]

but she can turn to things like day care and government grants for the help she needs.

[jortylbro]

I think you missed my point. I was saying traditionally female roles (childcare, housekeeping, etc.) were not given as much recognition as the male roles, not that people who are female should never choose them. I'm also saying that there should be no expectation for women to fill these roles as opposed to men.

Single mothers have more responsibility than two parents do because she is responsible for both traditional male and female roles. A husband is not necessary in her life...