HBO John Adams - Alexander Hamilton takes Jefferson to school

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Hamilton, who was always ahead of the curve, tells Jefferson why the newly formed United States needs a Treasury and centralized government in the HBO miniseries, John Adams. Jefferson always suspected Hamilton and the Treasury were corrupt, but upon ascending to the presidency, his own Secretary of Treasury, Albert Gallatin, called it the most perfect system ever formed and any changes would be devastating. Jefferson had no choice but to cede to Hamilton's system.

For more on Hamilton, pick up Ron Chernow's brilliant biography on one of the great patriots of all time.

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[RileyE104]

Hamilton was terrible. I don't care if he was "instrumental" in the founding of this country. Ya, he sure was. Thanks to his type of thinking, this country has been stuck with the Federal Reserve System for the past hundred years! Jefferson ended the 1st National Bank, Jackson ended the 2nd. It's time to end the 3rd!!!!!

[efs120]

@RileyE104 The first charter ended in Madison's term, so how did Jefferson end it? Madison even brought it back.

[coatlicue2012]

I'm sure that God the Father gives a rat's ass about "politics"...NOT. I'll take Jefferson over Hamilton and his perverse view of economics. Read "your" freaking history...he was a "wo is me" growing up. He felt he had a lot to prove, running and trampling over people to the top. However, Aaron Burr proved to be a better shot, now didn't he? Was Washington perfect, hell no! Was Jefferson perfect, hell no! Were any of these guys perfect, hell no! But Hamilton was an asshole much of the time.

[efs120]

@coatlicue2012 Hamilton didn't shoot at Burr, read "your" history.

[efs120]

@bullshit3118 Do you work at being this stupid? Or does it just come naturally to you?

[wattsmith]

@btp248 you can thank Hamilton for ROADS and DEBT, the degradation of nature and the origin of sheeple

[wattsmith]

How can you say you'll disable comments if we spew "drivel".

Free speech is free speech. You either accept it or you don't.

The "I believe in freedom, but..." mentality is what has led us down this slippery slope and so far away from sensible living.

[rhslinebacker33]

Hamilton was ahead of the curve of tyrants. Taking the liberties away from others. Hamilton was an intellectual midget amongst Jefferson.

[Surouness]

There is absolutely a need for a Treasury and a national debt. Jefferson acknowledged this. However, Hamilton's and Jefferson's differences were rooted in the idea of monetary policy and central banking. Even the first central bank, far more modest than the Federal Reserve System, was very inefficient and corruptible; the Bank gave the central government and private bankers too much power. It bound farmers to Londoners and New Yorkers, caused panics, and made the dollar worth less to the people.

[MikhailBakunin]

Adams wasn't blind to the dangers of capitalism and 'aristocracy' run amok, but I think he saw a strengthening of the federal government in international eyes as preferable to the issues of currency the United States had in this period, and essential to ending the trade war with England. Jefferson was correct in predicting the reasons for the madness of westward expansion, through to the 1850 compromise and the civil war. It's certainly not about the genius of Hamilton, going on about 'Union'.

[btp248]

Say what you want. Hamilton was a genius and did so much to help our early country. Politics change. Use some type of reletavism when looking back into history. Also some people commenting on here should actual do more than watch this miniseries if they want an understanding of history.

[emtpilot132]

"Incur a national debt" Is $15,000,000,000,000 enough for you?

[Bigturns33]

O yes. No doubt here. This is also the centrarl part of how one saw that the U.S. would have a war between the states aka the "CIVIL WAR". It was not so much about slavery though that was a big part. For the most part, the civil war was about what Jefferson said in the clip.  That farmers would be paying people in the North to pay the people that we just fought against. Until one realizes this it will never change. P.S. Slavery is deplorable and horrible.

[Bigturns33]

The Hamaltonian and Jeffersonian argument still persists. Do we want a powerful central authoirty in whom once has power runs with it like a mad man, or as Jefferson saw, the states are independent to the degree that they are united under the bill of rights. Hamilton even as stated in the clips says if the states own the centralized power money so even at the early outset, the founders saw the states very independent and seperate through united under the Constitution.

[CooleyReviews]

Hamilton was the greatest politician in American history. He provided the economic framework for the country, helped write most of The Federalist Papers (the most important and influential documents in American politics), and was the leader of the Federalist Party, a political party that used rational thought, unlike the Anti-Federalist who were paranoid and ignored common sense, instead using a simple ideology as their argument.