@sirsicksik Today seems to be my day for apologies and retractions. I assumed from the video that the difference between conscious and unconscious activity could be measured with MRI equipment, but it is not so
I assumed then that measuring the area of the brain active with conscious thought could then be subtracted from the total brain area, just as 20 yards can be subtracted from the total 100. My apologies, I was wrong
So you're assuming a 'whole' while you don't know how big that 'whole' is.. Science has found out certain workings in certain parts in the brain, but there has never been a one-on-one translation of a brain-process to the relative movement/thought. So even thought you're meassuring, you can't see what activity is of 'unconscious' activities and what part is of 'conscious' activity. Problem with unconscious is that you can never know if there's anything more..
@VvAnarchangelvV Just one problem..... how do you know the american football field of the brain is 100yards? Have you consciously felt that? Has there been a moment where somebody looked at his fmri-scan and said "well, I feel that part overthere consciously and those other 80% not? What I mean to say is that if you can only know a part of something that you're currently still learning about and nobody knowing what the exact correlations are, you also can't say how big that part is in
@sirsicksik But the unconscious part CAN be measured . Say the brain is an american football field. If the only activity on the field is from the 40 yard line to the 60 yard line, the other 80 yards does not just disappear
ehrm... if the unconcious part is unconcious AND you can't measure (fmri-imaging) which neuronal activity we are 'consciously aware' of, how in fact are you able to measure that 12% is conscious and 88% unconscious??
@sirsicksik Today seems to be my day for apologies and retractions. I assumed from the video that the difference between conscious and unconscious activity could be measured with MRI equipment, but it is not so
I assumed then that measuring the area of the brain active with conscious thought could then be subtracted from the total brain area, just as 20 yards can be subtracted from the total 100. My apologies, I was wrong
VvAnarchangelvV 5 months ago
@sirsicksik comparison to the whole.
So you're assuming a 'whole' while you don't know how big that 'whole' is.. Science has found out certain workings in certain parts in the brain, but there has never been a one-on-one translation of a brain-process to the relative movement/thought. So even thought you're meassuring, you can't see what activity is of 'unconscious' activities and what part is of 'conscious' activity. Problem with unconscious is that you can never know if there's anything more..
sirsicksik 5 months ago
@VvAnarchangelvV Just one problem..... how do you know the american football field of the brain is 100yards? Have you consciously felt that? Has there been a moment where somebody looked at his fmri-scan and said "well, I feel that part overthere consciously and those other 80% not? What I mean to say is that if you can only know a part of something that you're currently still learning about and nobody knowing what the exact correlations are, you also can't say how big that part is in
sirsicksik 5 months ago
@sirsicksik But the unconscious part CAN be measured . Say the brain is an american football field. If the only activity on the field is from the 40 yard line to the 60 yard line, the other 80 yards does not just disappear
VvAnarchangelvV 5 months ago
ehrm... if the unconcious part is unconcious AND you can't measure (fmri-imaging) which neuronal activity we are 'consciously aware' of, how in fact are you able to measure that 12% is conscious and 88% unconscious??
sirsicksik 1 year ago