Just want to say we cannot say with 100% certainty with hadith are authentic. If the tone/content of the hadith runs counter to the spirit of the Quran, then the hadith is incorrect. The Quran is the truth, and then after that everything is up for debate. Keep the faith. Salaam!
i agree with u but sahih means correct. any way those books were written 150 years after prophets death . there was no bukhari and muslim in the first 4o 5 generations
LIKE I SAID...YOU MUST READ THE LINKS BEFORE jumping into conclusions about what I said...I swear you are sounding like those kafirs who go around muslim vids looking to start trouble...if you will not see understanding then I will not continue to waste my energy on such matters.
i did not understand what you said in the beginning...but all of the collections were completed 2 centuries after the time of the Prophet (saws) but they are referred to as SAHIH (sound or authentic) because of the chain by which it was narrated and by the number of times that one narration was told (dont you know how these books were collected) if it was too weak then it would be disregarded...and i am not a hadith scholar which is why i sent you the links to those websites which explains why
what are you talking about?? stoning was carried out by the Prophet (saws) and the Caliphs it was mandatory upon adulterers..do you guys even follow hadiths or completely disregard all hadiths?
the only option you have. The website you have left me has been refuted not only refuted but scholars of Ahlul sunna wa Jamma have called the Author of the site a non scholar and someone who does not know what he is talking about. I have read that entire site 2 years ago. It is called "Ahlul bayt a Sunni perspective". As you have prayed for me I will do the dame, Salaam
Once again If you accept Bukhari and Muslim as Ahlul Sunna wa Jamma do then you must accept them all to be Sahih if not then you have a in problem that you need to figure out. Please don't say such cover ups that you accept to be true so you can sleep better at night like "they have been proven to be weak-chained, dhaeef, and there was only input of those to show discrepancy with other chains of those hadith versions". Please either call the book Sahih or call it hadith and filter them its
Omg listen to how stupid you sound. Once again the books are called Sahih that means EVERYTHING IN THEM IS SAHIH(TRUE). If you claim it to be weak then the book is not Sahih. Then you can claim hadith to be weak and strong. Then you would have a point. BUT YOU DON'T. If you consider it to be weak, then the book is not Sahih get it through your head.
Me defend such filth that I don't except about the prophet and you wan't me to defend it by defending Bukhari and Muslim, NEVER, I will defend the prophet by calling these hadith lies and fake. Loool The two most Sound hadith collections, are you kidding me, Hadith that came 250 years after the prophet, the never meet him or seen him yet there the most authentic. Oh no I mean they are Sahih lol that means everything in them is true and srong linked.
Astagfar'Allah he never ordered stoning of anyone lool weak simple minded Sunni. Just because Omar was scared that the Quran wasn't complete that the verse of stoning wasn't in the Quran doesn't mean that the prophet ordered the stoning of any one.
The hadith about salat ul layl just describes a moment..i did not say that Ali (as) did not pray tahajjud..in fact there is a dua that he (as) would read after that prayer which I have been meaning to memorize..therefore you are making this hadith out to be the most disgraceful thing everONCE AGAIN read all of the sites I will send to you in a message and ponder on why you guys have chosen to completely disregard THOUSANDS of sahih hadiths because of a few which
All your answers about this can be found at these sites and i pray you read ALL of it: (I will send you the link because I do not want youtube to not post this comment again)
And like I said two of my posts DID not get posted (I think its because I placed links to websites in them) but I actually had commented about the "suicide hadith" This was proven to be a dhaeef or weak-chained hadith, even the shia professor: Dr. Syed Husain Mohammad Jafri speaks of such cases in hadiths. As well as the bewitched hadith which I will also send the site to you.
The narration from Aisha about her time in menses just pertains to what can be and cannot be done by the husband with his wife during those circumstances..It is a husband and wife affair and I do not see how this shows bad of the Prophet (saws)?? Those filth mouth Christians use some of the SAME hadiths that you are using against me!! And instead of people like you trying to defend such accusations you totally ignore the two most sound hadith collections so that you wouldnt have to deal with em
The sahih Muslim hadith you refer to describes anytime a punishment needs to be given..like when the Prophet (saws) ordered the stoning of adulterers; or if any other punishments were needed to be carried out then Rasul (saws) prayed that it would purify the person and Allah (swt) would show mercy on them
and over. Who laid down in the Prophets mattress as a boy to die for him and the Quranic verse was revealed 2:207- And there is the type of man who gives his life to earn the pleasure of Allah: And Allah is full of kindness to (His) devotees. But he won't pray with the Prophet to ALLAH(SWT). Wow not to mention over 300 verses in the Quran for Imam Ali(as) and thousands of hadith. I'm done with this what a waste of my time.
my time explaining how disrespectful that hadith was towards the Prophet(saw). Astagfar'Allah. Al you do is give ammo to those filth mouth Christians to attack Islam. It's no wonder why you didn't have a comment about the hadith that the Prophet tried to commit suicide astafar'Allah. And as for Ali not wanting to pray with the prophet because it wasn't wajab wow your a joke. If the prophet told Ali to die he would...he won't pray with him lool. The same man who laid down his life for him over
that she would ever go to hell. You say it is nature to act out of anger sometimes loool omg, listen to yourself, this is the Prophet of Islam, the messenger of Allah(swt) where Quran 3:159 says, If he would have treated the people with a ounce of harshness, they would have turned away from him. Where quran says what what he says is not of his own desire but of Alla's(swt) 53:2-4. As for book book 6: 298, you don't know what's wrong with it?? Really wow ok never mind. Please lets not waste
The ignorance once again is on your side. The hadith states Fatima(as) by name. So what if he said "O Bani 'Abd Munaf", lol, he also so said "O people of Quraish", is all of Quraish his closest kin. Imam Ali(as) is never told by name. That's the point. Even Abbas was told O 'Abbas! The son of 'Abdul Muttalib I cannot save you from Allah. The whole point once again is, Fatima who Allah(swt) has deemed pure in Quran33:33 is told that she can not be saved from the hell fire as if there is a chance
The hadith about Ali and Fatima (ams) not praying tahajjud shows that it is just a superogatory prayer. They did not pray tahajjud with the prophet (saws) because it was not done in congregation. I think that all of your hadith are weak-chained and dhaeef! And i did not say that i was a scholar; however, if you are a shia scholar then please let me know and i will never reply to you again since it is not my place to argue with a scholar of islam.
It is in our nature to act out of anger sometimes; but what shows the beautiful characteristic of the prophet (saws) is that he (saws) had made a covenant with Allah (swt) that these maledictions with be a source of purity and mercy and in other hadith that it is an expiation from sins and one becomes closer to Allah (swt) SUBHANULLAH!! I dont understand what was wrong with Book 6, Number 298, please explain..as for Book 53, 400:
Just want to say we cannot say with 100% certainty with hadith are authentic. If the tone/content of the hadith runs counter to the spirit of the Quran, then the hadith is incorrect. The Quran is the truth, and then after that everything is up for debate. Keep the faith. Salaam!
sam7748 2 years ago
i agree with u but sahih means correct. any way those books were written 150 years after prophets death . there was no bukhari and muslim in the first 4o 5 generations
2Xlovermoe 2 years ago
LIKE I SAID...YOU MUST READ THE LINKS BEFORE jumping into conclusions about what I said...I swear you are sounding like those kafirs who go around muslim vids looking to start trouble...if you will not see understanding then I will not continue to waste my energy on such matters.
salaam wa alaikum
bluedevil666 2 years ago
there are some weak-chained hadiths in the collection
bluedevil666 2 years ago
i did not understand what you said in the beginning...but all of the collections were completed 2 centuries after the time of the Prophet (saws) but they are referred to as SAHIH (sound or authentic) because of the chain by which it was narrated and by the number of times that one narration was told (dont you know how these books were collected) if it was too weak then it would be disregarded...and i am not a hadith scholar which is why i sent you the links to those websites which explains why
bluedevil666 2 years ago
what are you talking about?? stoning was carried out by the Prophet (saws) and the Caliphs it was mandatory upon adulterers..do you guys even follow hadiths or completely disregard all hadiths?
bluedevil666 2 years ago
the only option you have. The website you have left me has been refuted not only refuted but scholars of Ahlul sunna wa Jamma have called the Author of the site a non scholar and someone who does not know what he is talking about. I have read that entire site 2 years ago. It is called "Ahlul bayt a Sunni perspective". As you have prayed for me I will do the dame, Salaam
moneygrl32 2 years ago
Once again If you accept Bukhari and Muslim as Ahlul Sunna wa Jamma do then you must accept them all to be Sahih if not then you have a in problem that you need to figure out. Please don't say such cover ups that you accept to be true so you can sleep better at night like "they have been proven to be weak-chained, dhaeef, and there was only input of those to show discrepancy with other chains of those hadith versions". Please either call the book Sahih or call it hadith and filter them its
moneygrl32 2 years ago
Omg listen to how stupid you sound. Once again the books are called Sahih that means EVERYTHING IN THEM IS SAHIH(TRUE). If you claim it to be weak then the book is not Sahih. Then you can claim hadith to be weak and strong. Then you would have a point. BUT YOU DON'T. If you consider it to be weak, then the book is not Sahih get it through your head.
moneygrl32 2 years ago
Me defend such filth that I don't except about the prophet and you wan't me to defend it by defending Bukhari and Muslim, NEVER, I will defend the prophet by calling these hadith lies and fake. Loool The two most Sound hadith collections, are you kidding me, Hadith that came 250 years after the prophet, the never meet him or seen him yet there the most authentic. Oh no I mean they are Sahih lol that means everything in them is true and srong linked.
moneygrl32 2 years ago
Astagfar'Allah he never ordered stoning of anyone lool weak simple minded Sunni. Just because Omar was scared that the Quran wasn't complete that the verse of stoning wasn't in the Quran doesn't mean that the prophet ordered the stoning of any one.
moneygrl32 2 years ago
have been proven to be weak-chained, dhaeef, and there was only input of those to show discrepancy with other chains of those hadith versions.
I pray these words find you well and that you try to be a little critical about your beliefs and accusations.
bluedevil666 2 years ago
The hadith about salat ul layl just describes a moment..i did not say that Ali (as) did not pray tahajjud..in fact there is a dua that he (as) would read after that prayer which I have been meaning to memorize..therefore you are making this hadith out to be the most disgraceful thing everONCE AGAIN read all of the sites I will send to you in a message and ponder on why you guys have chosen to completely disregard THOUSANDS of sahih hadiths because of a few which
bluedevil666 2 years ago
All your answers about this can be found at these sites and i pray you read ALL of it: (I will send you the link because I do not want youtube to not post this comment again)
bluedevil666 2 years ago
And like I said two of my posts DID not get posted (I think its because I placed links to websites in them) but I actually had commented about the "suicide hadith" This was proven to be a dhaeef or weak-chained hadith, even the shia professor: Dr. Syed Husain Mohammad Jafri speaks of such cases in hadiths. As well as the bewitched hadith which I will also send the site to you.
bluedevil666 2 years ago
The narration from Aisha about her time in menses just pertains to what can be and cannot be done by the husband with his wife during those circumstances..It is a husband and wife affair and I do not see how this shows bad of the Prophet (saws)?? Those filth mouth Christians use some of the SAME hadiths that you are using against me!! And instead of people like you trying to defend such accusations you totally ignore the two most sound hadith collections so that you wouldnt have to deal with em
bluedevil666 2 years ago
The sahih Muslim hadith you refer to describes anytime a punishment needs to be given..like when the Prophet (saws) ordered the stoning of adulterers; or if any other punishments were needed to be carried out then Rasul (saws) prayed that it would purify the person and Allah (swt) would show mercy on them
bluedevil666 2 years ago
and over. Who laid down in the Prophets mattress as a boy to die for him and the Quranic verse was revealed 2:207- And there is the type of man who gives his life to earn the pleasure of Allah: And Allah is full of kindness to (His) devotees. But he won't pray with the Prophet to ALLAH(SWT). Wow not to mention over 300 verses in the Quran for Imam Ali(as) and thousands of hadith. I'm done with this what a waste of my time.
Peace be upon those who deserve it.
moneygrl32 2 years ago
my time explaining how disrespectful that hadith was towards the Prophet(saw). Astagfar'Allah. Al you do is give ammo to those filth mouth Christians to attack Islam. It's no wonder why you didn't have a comment about the hadith that the Prophet tried to commit suicide astafar'Allah. And as for Ali not wanting to pray with the prophet because it wasn't wajab wow your a joke. If the prophet told Ali to die he would...he won't pray with him lool. The same man who laid down his life for him over
moneygrl32 2 years ago
that she would ever go to hell. You say it is nature to act out of anger sometimes loool omg, listen to yourself, this is the Prophet of Islam, the messenger of Allah(swt) where Quran 3:159 says, If he would have treated the people with a ounce of harshness, they would have turned away from him. Where quran says what what he says is not of his own desire but of Alla's(swt) 53:2-4. As for book book 6: 298, you don't know what's wrong with it?? Really wow ok never mind. Please lets not waste
moneygrl32 2 years ago
The ignorance once again is on your side. The hadith states Fatima(as) by name. So what if he said "O Bani 'Abd Munaf", lol, he also so said "O people of Quraish", is all of Quraish his closest kin. Imam Ali(as) is never told by name. That's the point. Even Abbas was told O 'Abbas! The son of 'Abdul Muttalib I cannot save you from Allah. The whole point once again is, Fatima who Allah(swt) has deemed pure in Quran33:33 is told that she can not be saved from the hell fire as if there is a chance
moneygrl32 2 years ago
actually i think that there is a delay in posting so there maybe some repeated replies lol sorry.
bluedevil666 3 years ago
Sorry the first and fourth replies didnt get posted so i'll try that again..try to put it in order yourself.
bluedevil666 3 years ago
The hadith about Ali and Fatima (ams) not praying tahajjud shows that it is just a superogatory prayer. They did not pray tahajjud with the prophet (saws) because it was not done in congregation. I think that all of your hadith are weak-chained and dhaeef! And i did not say that i was a scholar; however, if you are a shia scholar then please let me know and i will never reply to you again since it is not my place to argue with a scholar of islam.
salaam wa'alaikum.
bluedevil666 3 years ago
It is in our nature to act out of anger sometimes; but what shows the beautiful characteristic of the prophet (saws) is that he (saws) had made a covenant with Allah (swt) that these maledictions with be a source of purity and mercy and in other hadith that it is an expiation from sins and one becomes closer to Allah (swt) SUBHANULLAH!! I dont understand what was wrong with Book 6, Number 298, please explain..as for Book 53, 400:
bluedevil666 3 years ago