2000 Sydney Olympics 1500m Final

Hicham El Guerrouj, Noah Ngeny, Bernard Lagat

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• Noah Ngeny
• Bernard Lagat

[brianclough]

Huge upset like Kipketer's defeat in the 800m, but Hicham, the greatest middle distance runner would have his day 4 years later

[Argtser]

Noah Ngeny,Hicham El Guerrouj, Bernard Lagat

[YiftertheShifter1]

@7agneskickingbird7 Yeah I watched it earlier today or yesterday (and when it was available a while back). The first kilometer was only 2:28-2:29 or so, compared to Komen's 2:25. Accelerating to 2:25 in the middle of the race is... well, a recipe for a tough, slow final km. I don't know if El G was capable, but he was closer than anyone else. As a sidenote, you can see Komen finishing in that race in 8th place, reaffirming my point that you can't speculate on times based on stats at age 20

[7agneskickingbird7]

@YiftertheShifter1 True, on another note, El G's 7:23 with the last 3 laps was just uploaded, he was definately hurting on the last lap. All those 57's in the middle to get back on schedule killed his chances

[YiftertheShifter1]

@7agneskickingbird7 To my knowledge, Kaouch and El G weren't even in the same training camp/ coached by the same person. Like I said, I'll give El G the benefit of the doubt, and just say I really hope I'm not wrong about El G. Moroccans have a bad reputation for athletes testing positive for banned substances, but so do many other countries and we can't lump them all into one bad category.

[YiftertheShifter1]

@7agneskickingbird7 Ugh, I don't like this question, but I'll be willing to give El G the benefit of the doubt. To claim that "Kaouch doped, ergo El G doped" is a nonsensical guilt-by-association claim. Furthermore, El G had a high-profile career in which he was consistently the best miler in the world for eight straight years; Kaouch improved very rapidly btw. 2004-2006; he was 9th in the Athens Olympics, then 2nd the following year.

[7agneskickingbird7]

@YiftertheShifter1 Just curious, if you had to say, bet your life savings on whether El G

was doped or not, what would you say? He was still very talented, but the fact that he was from Morocco and then when Kaouch who was his rabbit for many races was caught when better testing came out have to make me believe it is likely he was doped. I still believe he could have been a low 3:30's guy. Now that he is retired, no proof is going to come to light, but what do you think? Cheers!

[YiftertheShifter1]

@7agneskickingbird7 I argued to put him and similar-minded people in their place. I don't really buy much into the age discrepancies; the point I make is that some athletes never improve after a certain performance, so it's useless to describe what a person could've run based on statistics gathered at, say, age 20. In other words, running times don't follow a straight trajectory! And yes, I know Mr. Canova, he's one of the world's most renowned coaches of distance runners.

[7agneskickingbird7]

@YiftertheShifter1 Why did you even bother arguing with Kozmon0t? Waste of time arguing with someone who thinks Ngeny was better than El G. I will have to point out though that it is highly likely Ngney was older than his stated age. I believe Brother

Colm O' Connel has said that he was about 5-6 years older than he said he was and on a Letsrun thread a while back Renato Canova (assuming you know who he is) said that Eliud Kipchoge was born around 1975-1976. Cheers! 

[Savill26]

Its Amazing That Lagat Is Still Running 12 Years Later And Still Getting Medals