Matthew Gonzalez Speech at Ron Paul Rally in San Francisco 9/4/10 Part 1

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[jlbarber54]

@yviva We do not have a capitalist world or country; we have a crony capitalist country and world. The world you are striving for will deliver a fascist country, Ron Paul is against both. Enjoy your lobbyist unconstitutional world.

[yviva]

@jlbarber54

look, i'm not interested in spending more time on this conversation. if you look all around the capitalist world, see the concentrated wealth & vast poverty & that's fine with you then your issues are really those of a psychological & ethical nature. or maybe you really have an inability to see what is actually taking place on this planet. & re: psychology, you may want to discuss your distorted thinking & social patterns with an expert in that field. they don't seem reality based.

[jlbarber54]

@yviva 1) LOL, where has that been as you say "disproven". 2) LOL, you sound like a little kid when you say something is so because you believe it. You realy should study issues and not just believe things your friends tell you.

[yviva]

@jlbarber54

i don't want to take much more time with this just a couple points: 1) the theory that free market trade creates competition and thereby the best quality & lowest prices for consumers of all goods & services has been disproven by the realitites on the ground. 2) housing bubbles are artificially created by an inequitable capitalist system. i believe in equitable housing and land distribution thoughout society. my criticisms of the current economic system go even deeper than yours.

[jlbarber54]

@yviva Do you understand how the housing bubble was created? Government intervention created the housing bubble by holding interest rates artificially down thus attracting capital that would not have normally gone into housing.

The heath industry has a similar bubble in that the suppliers of health care are paid their rates by the government without allowing for competitive forces to lower prices. Any industry the government gets involved in creates financial bubbles.

[yviva]

@jlbarber54

well if your "research" hasn't shown you the vast difference between both cost and health care delivery to populations as a whole, between the u.s. & canada, or the u.s. & britain, as examples of societies with commercial health care for sale vs. government funded health care you probably need to do some research on how to do research.

[jlbarber54]

@yviva I have done the research... I have been studying economics as a hobby for 15 years... I am a sicko when it comes to research... If you really want to see the cost of health care come down, abolish health insurance. That will cause the health care providers (Doctors and Drug Companies) to lower their prices whereas they then are forced to compete for your dollar like everyone else in an economy. As it is now, they have a monopoly over us.

[yviva]

@jlbarber54

do some research & look around the world and you will see that you are wrong. nations that have socialized medicine spend far less on medical care and every citizen is covered. the u.s. spends far more per person on medical care than canada, for eg. while 50,000 americans die annually from lack of access to medical care and many go with out due to unaffordable medical insurance costs or unaffordable medical insurance deductible costs. americans die so insurance co.s can profit.

[jlbarber54]

@yviva Health care only became expensive once the government got involved. If you want costs to come down then you must create and environment where the health care providers must compete for your money just like the plumber or food suppliers compete for your money. IT IS ECONOMICS 101… Due to the lobbying of the AMA and Big Pharma, Government guarantees their profits. We have a healthcare bubble just like we had a real-estate bubble.

[yviva]

@jlbarber54

you're so out of touch with reality that you must be writing either from an asylum or a corporate office.