WOW! The Show Me State showed Obamacare the door tonight. Over 70% of Missouri voters rejected Obamacare by passing Prop c. It's too bad local KMOV St. Louis Channel 4 could not find any one who voted for the proposition.
i read the proposition... its clearly stated that the government can not FORCE us to buy federal health insurance... i did not vote to ban it... if it got banned then im going to have some SERIOUS issues with the government... i read that mother fucker, i know what i voted for... its not a healthcare bill killer, its just reassurance for rednecks who want to be safe from obamas communist take over... im an obama supporter, but i voted yes on c because i dont let the fed FORCE anything
@Aegius Since you want to go there, I could also say to you: If you want "true, independence" you can pack your back and go live in the Congo or anywhere else where your "Rights" and "Liberties" are hacked out every day by those willing and able to commit the most violence.
You want your true colonial wilderness where you can be free...get a plane ticket.
There are plenty of 3rd world countries ready and willing to take you.
@Aegius "At Gun Point" is a bit overly dramatic and doesn't add any weight to your argument.
1)Your point is tec correct---however, how many other laws/restrictions are also not in the Constitution, and yet we mandate them for all citizens?
2) You are granted LIFE, which could be argued as the ability to get fair health insurance---which as we've seen, is not possible in the Free Market where the end result is related to profit and not health.
All the Obama Care was for,is to feed certain In-tress Insurance groups,to make them Fat and to fine people through the IRS to extort more money from the tax payers.This is Organized Crime of the best.It's all a fraud.You people out their need to wake up and see these Criminals for what they are.And kick them out,and freeze their Checking Accounts and make them pay.
@willdrake1 Where in the US Constitution is there a right for the federal gov to dictate to people at gun point to purchase a good or service? Health care is NOT a right. It is a service that requires other people's labor for production & providing. Anything that requires other people's labor makes it a privilege per payment, and not a right. BTW, if you like economic slavery so much, fine, pack your bags & go to N Korea.
Oh, and by-the-by, feelings aren’t protected in the Constitution...
1) I have made my points clear, you just can't follow along.
a) Living within a society, where actions and lives are interconnected, doesn't make anyone a slave---which is why I said your "point" was incorrect and dramatic.
b) the only way to be completely “independent” of others, is to not be in a society---again, pretty clear.
Blather all you like, you still haven't made your point. You are obviously only here to troll and flame, not for discussion. I can easily do the same.
1. You're wrong.
2. You're wrong.
3. You're wrong.
See how easy that is to do. I didn't make or prove a point, just like you didn't.
Go back to whacking off to your internet porn. (see how easy it is to flame?)
@endisnighe Wow, if anyone ever wanted to know how to take the "Speech in the State House" totally out of context to suit your own needs----this is it.
I can quote Sam Adams to support/defend numerous things too---many the same idea, but I won't, since I'm not an arrogant dumbass.
Be careful when you quote things, people will call BULL SHIT.
i read the proposition... its clearly stated that the government can not FORCE us to buy federal health insurance... i did not vote to ban it... if it got banned then im going to have some SERIOUS issues with the government... i read that mother fucker, i know what i voted for... its not a healthcare bill killer, its just reassurance for rednecks who want to be safe from obamas communist take over... im an obama supporter, but i voted yes on c because i dont let the fed FORCE anything
wildboy789789 1 year ago
@Aegius Since you want to go there, I could also say to you: If you want "true, independence" you can pack your back and go live in the Congo or anywhere else where your "Rights" and "Liberties" are hacked out every day by those willing and able to commit the most violence.
You want your true colonial wilderness where you can be free...get a plane ticket.
There are plenty of 3rd world countries ready and willing to take you.
Best of luck.
If you want to debate, less empty rhetoric plz.
willdrake1 1 year ago
@Aegius "At Gun Point" is a bit overly dramatic and doesn't add any weight to your argument.
1)Your point is tec correct---however, how many other laws/restrictions are also not in the Constitution, and yet we mandate them for all citizens?
2) You are granted LIFE, which could be argued as the ability to get fair health insurance---which as we've seen, is not possible in the Free Market where the end result is related to profit and not health.
3) Payment doesn't equal Privilege
willdrake1 1 year ago
@endisnighe Look dude, you're doing it again with yet another Sam Adams quote.
Stop it.
willdrake1 1 year ago
All the Obama Care was for,is to feed certain In-tress Insurance groups,to make them Fat and to fine people through the IRS to extort more money from the tax payers.This is Organized Crime of the best.It's all a fraud.You people out their need to wake up and see these Criminals for what they are.And kick them out,and freeze their Checking Accounts and make them pay.
Chewbacca1978 1 year ago
@willdrake1 Where in the US Constitution is there a right for the federal gov to dictate to people at gun point to purchase a good or service? Health care is NOT a right. It is a service that requires other people's labor for production & providing. Anything that requires other people's labor makes it a privilege per payment, and not a right. BTW, if you like economic slavery so much, fine, pack your bags & go to N Korea.
Aegius 1 year ago
@willdrake1
The only legitimate response to your troll is "Thanks for proving my point".
Have a good day! :D
Rapier36 1 year ago
@Rapier36 Did someone get their feelings hurt?
Oh, and by-the-by, feelings aren’t protected in the Constitution...
1) I have made my points clear, you just can't follow along.
a) Living within a society, where actions and lives are interconnected, doesn't make anyone a slave---which is why I said your "point" was incorrect and dramatic.
b) the only way to be completely “independent” of others, is to not be in a society---again, pretty clear.
c) Rights are not up to a Vote.
Confused?
willdrake1 1 year ago
@willdrake1
Blather all you like, you still haven't made your point. You are obviously only here to troll and flame, not for discussion. I can easily do the same.
1. You're wrong.
2. You're wrong.
3. You're wrong.
See how easy that is to do. I didn't make or prove a point, just like you didn't.
Go back to whacking off to your internet porn. (see how easy it is to flame?)
Rapier36 1 year ago
@endisnighe Wow, if anyone ever wanted to know how to take the "Speech in the State House" totally out of context to suit your own needs----this is it.
I can quote Sam Adams to support/defend numerous things too---many the same idea, but I won't, since I'm not an arrogant dumbass.
Be careful when you quote things, people will call BULL SHIT.
willdrake1 1 year ago