Winter Soldier (talking truth about Iraq, Vietnam)-2/5

Winter Soldier: Hundreds of Veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan Gather to Testify in Echo of 1971 Vietnam Hearings
Hundreds of veterans and active-duty soldiers of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are gathering today for the Winter Soldier hearings. The soldiers plan to give eyewitness accounts of the occupations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Organized by Iraq Veterans Against the War, the gathering is modeled after the 1971 Winter Solider hearings organized by the Vietnam Veterans Against the War. [includes rush transcript]

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[kellog1]

when you hear the testimonies of these soldiers you'll come to know how evil are these americans.

[chuckkottke]

The 9-11 terrorism was Al Qaeda & not Iraq. The way to deal with dictators is to isolate their regime, not harm the citizens, and contain. Slow, but with much, much less harm, and with a greater possibility to maintain national dignity and stability. What we have in Iraq is a country which has suffered unduly from our government's policy for 18 years; and after all the unnecessary destruction, disease, impoverishment, and war, is taking hold of it's own future; the outcome still unclear.

[Redbaron011]

I'm tired of that old hippie bag. Just play the damn footage.

[southsydney]

i like the part in 'all quiet on the western front' where the characters come up with a better alternative to war. Get the leaders of the countries to fight it out in an arena, love that book

[chuckkottke]

Let's compare the gradual descent of behavior in an occupation with resistance, where frustration and retaliation can become brutality and random outbursts of violence for some. Unless human nature has changed, these things are constant in history. War for a Democracy is for defense only, not offense; occupations cannot last, and revolutionary war cannot be justified if it is not by the will of the citizens in the nation where the action is.

[mattcox16]

Let's compare every future war to Vietnam. Because they will always be the fucking same. Gimme a break, this is bullshit.

[imthunder]

I'd like to see you rebel against your commander and friends in that situation. You would have been beaten to a pulp. It's all too easy to say what you would do in the safty of your own home.

[imthunder]

why can't more people see this?

[TSM9356]

sayy no to all war

[kaintucklongknife]

I have several friends in the military now some of whom are in Iraq now. None feel that the war is a lost cause. They feel that developing Democracy in Iraq is a worthy goal and that fighting terrorism overseas is better than fighting it in the US.

[VibrateHigh]

I disagree. It is not guilt that brings people forward, it is a desire to reclaim their souls, the same souls that were slyly taken away by those demanding that they follow the rules.

Every country has been guilty of senseless violence - we are ALL guilty and we ALL need to stop before we completely annihilate this world and it's people. There is nothing brave about killing.