I'm Allowed to Rob You!

Want to see a piece of paper that gives me the RIGHT to rob you? You don't believe there is such a thing? Are you SURE you don't believe it?

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[EAN743]

Who are you talking about?

I think you have a very different definition of the term slave from most of the world. a 'slave' is a person with very little freedom that is bought and sold on the market. a slave can not leave his owner nor can he choose his job.That is a slave.

[EAN743]

What?

property is something you can sell.

if you can not sell it -it is not a property .

property is something that have no choice,

if you have a choice, you are not a property.

[EAN743]

I am not sure what is the alternative to democracy you suggest.

we live in an imperfect world with imperfect people.

why do you believe that any government is "immoral and illegitimate"?

why do you believe that an anarchist society will be more moral?

[EAN743]

i wrote: "...decide with other people..."

so yes. i do believe that in a democracy voters decide who will be in government and what the law is. That what democracy is.

now. i don't live in your country, if you have an argument that where you live is not a democracy then that is a different matter.

[LarkenRose]

While actual democracy (forcibly-imposed mob rule) would also be immoral and illegitimate, your comment was saying that RIGHT NOW we don't have slavery, because voters can decide "what the rules are and how much tax" there will be. I asked if you really believe that that is the case--that voters decide what taxes and other "laws" will be. You didn't answer the question.

[EAN743]

I am advocating a democracy not a mock democracy or a limited one.

In a democracy the citizen have power to determine what the law is and the power to determine who the elected officials are.

If where you live that is not the case then you don't live in a democracy.

[LarkenRose]

Do you really and truly believe that average voters decide who will be in power, what the "laws" will be, and what the tax rates will be? I know that's the BS mythology we were all taught about "democracy," but do you really still believe it?

[recazdeef55]

Eh.. what?

[EAN743]

I watched it. It is not the smart argument that you think it is.

You can't define slavery in such a way.

You as a citizen of a free country -can leave it-

a slave can't leave his master- but you can.

You as a citizen of a democracy can decide with other people what the rules are and how much tax you will have to pay.

a slave has no such power.

[wood9670]

Your definition of a slave is a very narrow one. There are many types of slavery. Some slaves have had the freedom to choose their profession and even lived miles away from their "masters". They just had to hand a portion of their earnings over. Now, it could be the case that you only oppose certain types of slavery, such as chattel slaver, and not slavery in principle. I hope I am wrong.

Ever heard of Robert Nozick's, Tale of the Slave? It's a real eye opener.

/watch?v=-lYlhvkVUDU

[fabionis]

good luck finding someone named "you".

[EAN743]

So if a "King" owns a land he have the right to determine the rules and take rent from those that live on it -right?

a similar relationship exist between state and citizen.

Do you belive that "overt slavery" is not as bad as what we have today in a democratic state? or not?