Why was God so harsh in the Old Testament but more forgiving in the New?

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[Vccine]

And people call chirstians ignorant. Just look all these people here coming here, spreading hate, and insulting one another.

By the way, if God was evil and unforgiving, we wouldn't even be here, we'd all be enjoying hell already

[Swipe57]

@quemich If the Old Testament is written by the old English church, then why do we have manuscripts that are thousands of years old (look at the Dead Sea Scrolls). Before insulting someone's belief, make sure you know what you're talking about.

[Geckuno]

@definitiongrace (3) please don't tell me that "we cannot understand god, therefore we should just accept it as it is" argument. Then god should have been less "intelligent" in his actions so we "simple" humans could understand. That way we wouldn't have any doubt that it is the truth and no person would have to suffer needlesley for something that they weren't sure of.

[Geckuno]

@definitiongrace (2) So what you are saying is that god basically killed his own son. And was like, "Look how much I love you... Instead of punishing you like the way I punish my son, (or forgive you) I simply punish my son. What kind of a demonstration of love is that? It's not normal. It's like a teacher gets mad in class then bangs his head to the wall instead of shouting at the student. Because he loves the students. He could not just forgive them. Because the teacher had some anger issues.

[Geckuno]

(1)@definitiongrace How is someone innocent taking the blame for someone else just? Lets say that what you say is real. How is it just? Christ may be a good person. But that's all we can get out of this theory. We certainly cannot come to the conclusion that god is just. If a punishment is in order it should be done to that who deserves it. Or he should be forgiven and taught the true way. Punishing someone irrelevant is not just nor logical. (And punishing his own son is not good either.)

[Geckuno]

@cbartel89 that is a very ignorant almost insulting statement. So you have your responsibilities and I don't? No. I have responibilities to suffering people, to people whom I care etc. But a (purely) religious person has fear inside. Fear of suffering. I don't see god as my personal pet. I know that he isn't. And it is irrelevant to the topic.

[definitiongrace]

@cbartel89 All your statements are very well said. I was reading previous comments trying to figure out how to respond and you did so very well. Just remember to do things out of love and faith so our words and actions will show grace to those who watch and hear. Hope you have a great day!

[definitiongrace]

@Geckuno The part you forget is that Christ took on our sins and the punishment thereof. "For our sake [God] made [Christ] to be sin who knew no sin, so that in [Christ] we might become the righteousness of God. (2Cor 5:21)" It is just because God did it out of love for us! It wasn't supposed to teach sinners a lesson but rather show the love and grace of God! You can't possibly understand because you're (1) not God and (2) a natural person (See Romans 2:14).

[cbartel89]

@Geckuno What do you believe in? What you are wanting is either no god, so that you have no purpose or responsibility in life or your own personal pet god that allows you to do whatever you want and then you can call on him when you need something. It doesn't work like that. There are consequences for your actions. You are held responsible for what you do with this life.

[cbartel89]

@Geckuno His forgiveness is the most magnificent of all. We are all sinners BUT he offers forgiveness through Christ Jesus. Jesus died to DEMONSTRATE for us the love God has for each and every person. All that He asks is that you choose to follow Him.

[cbartel89]

@Geckuno If the God of the Bible is real, then you must take Him at his Word. He cannot be your idea of a god where he will be "nice and forgive people and not be so mean". God is just, perfect, and holy according to His Word. Therefore, all sin must be punished. His wrath is pure. There is a difference between hatred and anger. God is angered by our sin but loving in how he responds. This is an appropriate response to sin by a perfect God.

[cbartel89]

@Geckuno your very words contradict themselves. "If there is a god, he is not just. how can someone deserve to burn in hell for not believing in something..." Get this straight, A JUST GOD WILL PUNISH SINS, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MAKES HIM JUST. If God allowed sins to go unpunished and did not make right every wrong, then exactly what kind of god would He be? I for sure would not want to worship a god like that.