@redwhitedude I posted some answers to your channel. Not speculating. I'm re-stating what is said on the Book of Jin History and the Book of Koryo History. They both claim that the ancestors of Royal Founders of Jin came from Silla which became Goryo later; hence, calling Goryo as the Mother Nation.
@Lee7676 a lot of chinese history book is fake. they put fiction to make things look better. even chinese didn't accept other tribes as part of china untill 1960's . and now they say it's part of chinese history. it's not based on mogolian books. it's based on korean books. and the truth. even chinese say tibet is part of china now. mongol is part of china too. it doesn't make it sence at all. u know why? cuz the langauge, culture , the way of bowls is not similar iwth chinese much.
@Lee7676 Therefore, Jin = Pharhae (Balhae) citizens + Shilla governors/rulers
Balhae = decendants of Goguryeo. And the founder (Dae Jo-Young) of Balhae was the son of Goguryeo's Great General. And the founder of Jin was 7th/8th generation son of Shilla's last king.
this documentary based on the history book wrote by mongols not by jin dynasty themselves.mongols destroyed many books as well as changed history as well as many artifacts.there is a possiblity that ex-silla's people moved to jurchen,but because of that,silla cant be a link to wanyan clan. 668,after koguryo fell,many nobles taken to tang,but remaining people fight back and they found pharhae dynasty.when liao destroyed pharhae liao called all the ex-pharhae people'JURCHEN'
@redwhitedude I posted some answers to your channel. Not speculating. I'm re-stating what is said on the Book of Jin History and the Book of Koryo History. They both claim that the ancestors of Royal Founders of Jin came from Silla which became Goryo later; hence, calling Goryo as the Mother Nation.
unitedKR 2 months ago
@Lee7676 You mean they lumped them with the Malgal people already existing there right?
redwhitedude 2 months ago
@unitedKR You are speculating about the founder of Jin. This program makes it sound like there is strong evidence for that but I am not convinced.
redwhitedude 2 months ago
@elazar79 Are you sure? Wanyan is a direct ancestor of Aixinjueluo? Aren't they unrelated clans.
redwhitedude 2 months ago
@Lee7676 a lot of chinese history book is fake. they put fiction to make things look better. even chinese didn't accept other tribes as part of china untill 1960's . and now they say it's part of chinese history. it's not based on mogolian books. it's based on korean books. and the truth. even chinese say tibet is part of china now. mongol is part of china too. it doesn't make it sence at all. u know why? cuz the langauge, culture , the way of bowls is not similar iwth chinese much.
redlimp01 5 months ago
Jin ancestor of Qing, from Wanyan to Aixinjueluo.
elazar79 1 year ago
@Lee7676 Therefore, Jin = Pharhae (Balhae) citizens + Shilla governors/rulers
Balhae = decendants of Goguryeo. And the founder (Dae Jo-Young) of Balhae was the son of Goguryeo's Great General. And the founder of Jin was 7th/8th generation son of Shilla's last king.
unitedKR 1 year ago
this documentary based on the history book wrote by mongols not by jin dynasty themselves.mongols destroyed many books as well as changed history as well as many artifacts.there is a possiblity that ex-silla's people moved to jurchen,but because of that,silla cant be a link to wanyan clan. 668,after koguryo fell,many nobles taken to tang,but remaining people fight back and they found pharhae dynasty.when liao destroyed pharhae liao called all the ex-pharhae people'JURCHEN'
Lee7676 1 year ago
金氏 kim
rlarladudtnr 2 years ago