On Nov. 20, while protesters remained barricaded in rooms at the Wheeler Building, UC Berkeley, outside students from Oakland discussed how the substantial tuition and fee increases announced this week will likely affect them.
Internships! i have sat in seminars at UCD and elsewhere only to find out the teacher was A) and intern B) IN graduate school coming from a State.
So are you not paying UC fees to be taught by an intern from State? ( I am fulyl aware this is not always the case.)
So i am done with my rant. i just think that (although i feel for them and understand how frustrating it is) many UC students need to get over themselves, their pretty UC tags, and look elsewhere. Otherwise, deal.
3) States have maintained the proper view of a University (better at least) than UC. Smaller campuses, smaller classes, more pro-active professors, and an equal education to UC on half the endowment and a fraction of the tuition. I mean, really, what got lost in translation that so clearly says State is sub-par to UC? I can walk out with the same Major as someone at a UC. What makes a UC diploma better than mine? Might I add where State graduate students go? UC!
@chreveir made it so only higher and higher classes can join them- in a sense, privatizing them. All to subsidize research for companies. UC has lost sight of what a University is supposed to be. Its a machine now. Take em in, take their money, pump em out, repeat.
2) Because its such a machine the education quality goes down. No one would like to admit it, but UC's education is fairly...average. Hundreds of kids per class, interns, rarely seeing a professor 1v1... Students arn't special.
1) As much as I understand NO ONE likes tuition hikes, we are in HARD ECONOMIC TIMES. Things like this happen out of desperate attempts to keep our wonderful CA education system going. What do these students want? Their schools to go bankrupt 4 years down the road? Well, hey, as long as THEY graduate, no big right?
2) UC was too expensive anyways. Yes, I could have afforded to go there, but why? UC's huge tuitions have
You are not entitled to free education. I understand that a negotiation needs to be had to see who gets hit the hardest but college is already overpriced because everyone is subsidized to go to it. So in other words, the regents are saying that if you are really poor, you'll be covered. What's the incentive to being able to afford going to school. We all might as well be broke and not take up full time jobs to pay our tuition. Moral hazard is all around us laying the stage for more increases.
Excellent observation. Its interesting that the students only option is take out more loans when in reality he can take his money somewhere else. Maybe... to another State or rather a Junior college. Since when do you have to get a college degree at Berkeley to be successful? I'm pretty sure people like Bill Gates dropped out of school and still made a good living for himself. This idea that everyone needs to go to college is a farce and helps cause prices to skyrocket. Economics 101!
Laughable? The money spent on the graduate students' benefits is money that could be spent on your "needs." Just another example of a total absence of understanding of the economic realities of the dependence created by a socialist approach. Mr. Dongus, YOU are responsible for your needs, not me, not the Californians clogging our Texas cities looking for work, not anyone else.
@chreveir
Internships! i have sat in seminars at UCD and elsewhere only to find out the teacher was A) and intern B) IN graduate school coming from a State.
So are you not paying UC fees to be taught by an intern from State? ( I am fulyl aware this is not always the case.)
So i am done with my rant. i just think that (although i feel for them and understand how frustrating it is) many UC students need to get over themselves, their pretty UC tags, and look elsewhere. Otherwise, deal.
chreveir 1 year ago
@chreveir
3) States have maintained the proper view of a University (better at least) than UC. Smaller campuses, smaller classes, more pro-active professors, and an equal education to UC on half the endowment and a fraction of the tuition. I mean, really, what got lost in translation that so clearly says State is sub-par to UC? I can walk out with the same Major as someone at a UC. What makes a UC diploma better than mine? Might I add where State graduate students go? UC!
chreveir 1 year ago
@chreveir made it so only higher and higher classes can join them- in a sense, privatizing them. All to subsidize research for companies. UC has lost sight of what a University is supposed to be. Its a machine now. Take em in, take their money, pump em out, repeat.
2) Because its such a machine the education quality goes down. No one would like to admit it, but UC's education is fairly...average. Hundreds of kids per class, interns, rarely seeing a professor 1v1... Students arn't special.
chreveir 1 year ago
And this is why I said fuck UC and went to State.
1) As much as I understand NO ONE likes tuition hikes, we are in HARD ECONOMIC TIMES. Things like this happen out of desperate attempts to keep our wonderful CA education system going. What do these students want? Their schools to go bankrupt 4 years down the road? Well, hey, as long as THEY graduate, no big right?
2) UC was too expensive anyways. Yes, I could have afforded to go there, but why? UC's huge tuitions have
chreveir 1 year ago
I think the protesters should demand a repeal of Newton's laws.
RandallFlaggNY 1 year ago
Search the protests in italy in the video called
Scontri a Piazza Navona, Roma, 29-10-08. Tratto da "Anno Zero" - io non ho paura
Yong people have the same problems from Europe to US. But we can organize the NEW ORDER
infovobis 2 years ago
You are not entitled to free education. I understand that a negotiation needs to be had to see who gets hit the hardest but college is already overpriced because everyone is subsidized to go to it. So in other words, the regents are saying that if you are really poor, you'll be covered. What's the incentive to being able to afford going to school. We all might as well be broke and not take up full time jobs to pay our tuition. Moral hazard is all around us laying the stage for more increases.
banemaler 2 years ago
Excellent observation. Its interesting that the students only option is take out more loans when in reality he can take his money somewhere else. Maybe... to another State or rather a Junior college. Since when do you have to get a college degree at Berkeley to be successful? I'm pretty sure people like Bill Gates dropped out of school and still made a good living for himself. This idea that everyone needs to go to college is a farce and helps cause prices to skyrocket. Economics 101!
banemaler 2 years ago
Laughable? The money spent on the graduate students' benefits is money that could be spent on your "needs." Just another example of a total absence of understanding of the economic realities of the dependence created by a socialist approach. Mr. Dongus, YOU are responsible for your needs, not me, not the Californians clogging our Texas cities looking for work, not anyone else.
TexanFiveThree 2 years ago 2
Not really. That's a laughable notion.
California is not broke, it's just run by a wealthy minority that isn't interested in our needs.
MrDongus 2 years ago