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The Edwardians In Colour - 03 - Europe on the Brink (PART 1)

EDWARDIANS IN COLOUR: THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF ALBERT KAHN BBC Two: The full series starts Friday 16 November 2007 7.30pm-8pm The Archive of the Planet was the brainchild of the millionaire French b...  
 
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VTEKEN (1 year ago) Show Hide
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Dinatomia,did you not hear the part where they mention the ethnic people of Macedonia.
They are the real Macedonians, the people who lost their identity through 100's of years occupation by Roman & Ottoman Empires.
The Greeks identity was made up in 1829 to weaken the Ottoman rule and for England & France to have a puppet in the Balkans aka Greece. Russia's puppet was Bulgaria in 1878.
Dianatomia (10 months ago) Show Hide
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Maybe a bird whispered it in your ear. There never was a Macedonian ethnic group. There were different ethnic groups in Macedonia, but not a Macedonian ethnic group.
zBani (8 months ago) Show Hide
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i am a Macedonian.
can you argue about that. about what my... grandad used to tell me for example(b.1914)... he used to tell me he was Macedonian too...
Dianatomia (8 months ago) Show Hide
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You are a Macedonian Slav to be more precise. Your grandfather (born in 1914 as you say) may well have claimed to be a Macedonian. De-Bulgarization (Macedonism) began after the Balkan wars. Your grandfather would have been part of that poces growing up as a child.
zBani (8 months ago) Show Hide
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I wish you wew aware how distasteful is what you are saying. I am intentionally not intellectualizing, i deliberately won't try to "gamble" with historical, ethnological anthropological arguments here, or try to, because youtube it's not a place for that kind of discussion.
And, also, i think that you cannot argue how people felt, about themselves. You cannot argue how he felt about his ethnic/national identity. They lived with it, with that specific, complex, cultural and spiritual context
zBani (8 months ago) Show Hide
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Context, knowledge that cannot just be washed away, or wiped out. "Now you are Greek/American/Macedonian/Bulg arian/Dutch" and simply neglect the language, your mother's father's friend's teacher's brother's sister's knowledge of the world, of their place in it.Their place defined by their identity. In this case ethnic.People who migrate for example in US, never forget where they come from.For example AfroAmericans.For example Aegean Macedonians even though they were repressed actively,and they
zBani (8 months ago) Show Hide
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Dianatomia PLEASE read some ethnography dating as far as 19th and early 20th century! from bosnian, serbian, etc ethnologists. that would guarantee you some*at least) objectivity...
georgegto (9 months ago) Show Hide
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1829?What about the flag of 'macedonia', do u even know what it means the star? Great Alexander did he live on 1829?Ur grandparents has brainwashed u idiot..Ask the govermand of 'Macedoania' why did they changed the flag from G.A. symbol?
zBani (8 months ago) Show Hide
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They changed the flag because of the political circumstances. Pressure, oppression poverty and , even the peace and humans lives were at stake. Like all of the ex-yu countries. Do you even know, can you even begin to imagine how does that look like? Do you think it was changed cause"they" liked it better that way?Or cause they didn't know what it means?They/we were threatened. It's not nice to call someone (you don't know )an idiot?

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