Todai Ninjutsu- Ninjutsu Techniques
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And why would u say that??
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an excellent montage of techniques thank you for sharing with us . Thumbs up.
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@Arteanor lol, not at all. Just illustrating the difference in understanding the terms of "bujutsu" and "budo" - that both contain combative techniques, and simply speculating on why Soke calls it Budo. Ninjutsu being a "bujutsu" doesn't prove there are no "techniques" in it, nor does Soke deciding to refer to his teachings/approach to this art as "budo" reduce it's legitimacy as being Ninjutsu. Would you prefer if we call it "Nindo"?
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@Arteanor "which i can understand, but without EVIDENCE for the claim of ninjutsu, you cannot claim to have proven yourself. especially when claiming edo period densho."
Okay, fair enough- then don't accuse people of being fraudulent without EVIDENCE that their claims are untrue. You have a lot of speculations and deductions, but you have not presented a source that verifiable proves your argument. So what it really comes down to is - agree to disagree. Thanks for the discussion.
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@Arteanor "agreed, BUT the same culture were also notorious record keepers." True. But records of things like this would have posed a danger if discovered.
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@Arteanor They are a little...dismissive.... when it comes to people inquiring outside the art (as in "who are you and why do I need to justify myself to you?"). As you know, questioning something can be construed as insulting to the Japanese. I'm not sure where the scrolls are published, although I know there is an iphone/ipad app for Koto Ryu. It is not a "claim", he does have them.
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ah, i see, you think the nihon kobudo shinkokai and the nihon kobudo kyokai got the words mixed up,... they are only the 2 most respected koryu societies.
i will acknowledge a naming convention that no gendai schools are bujutsu, but that does not mean kobudo ryu are suddenly not budo...
historicity is the issue, shouldnt we follow the context of the author?
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"If you wish to understand both parties reasonings you would have to really talk to them."
antony cummins author of shinobi soldiers (TSOAS2008 on youtube) did contact hatsumi about viewing the scrolls he claims he has... when he requested to see the ninjutsu scrolls he said they were already published, not naming where, i have only ever seen the ones for the budo he knew, you can watch the video.
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"You're talking about a very a secretive group about an art that was a closely guarded secret in a culture that is inherently ambiguous"
agreed, BUT the same culture were also notorious record keepers.
"so it can be very difficult to find a smoking gun pointing to an absolute answer"
which i can understand, but without EVIDENCE for the claim of ninjutsu, you cannot claim to have proven yourself. especially when claiming edo period densho.
the 9 year old kids at my dojo can do this stuff.
AlmightyDonutx 1 year ago
@AlmightyDonutx Good for them
ShinobiNoTodai 1 year ago 4