John Piper - Has God predetermined every detail in the universe, including sin?

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[WCOFTheology]

@fractalfires1 When you say something important I might answer you, but you keep on exposing yourself!

[fractalfires1]

@WCOFTheology Calvinism is not Christianity. Do you believe that Lucifer's righteousness is secretly imputed to you too?

[WCOFTheology]

@MrUrosSrb I did not say the Christianity is Calvinism, I said, Calvinism is Christianity, there is a difference!

[MrUrosSrb]

@WCOFTheology Christianity is Christanity,its not Calvinism.

[Sudhish86]

@fractalfires1, what is your point?

[WCOFTheology]

@Soldier4Jesus7777 Good I hope you will not answer, in fact I hope you will never make another comment to anyone else again, until you learn the truth that Calvinism IS Christianity!

[fractalfires1]

@Sudhish86 The Godhead is a triunity of the FAther Son and Holy Spirit co-existing eternally, one in substance but distinct in Persons. There is relationship, not of greater or less, but as equals. Love or unselfish benevolence reciprocates within the Trinity.

A law is just a description, but what does the law describe or publish...just that God is love. Awesome!

[Sudhish86]

@Rekenbij, also, before anything was created, there was just God.

so, besides God, there is nothing inherently.

this is in reference to the nature of "good", since people mistakenly suppose "good" as you seem to.

"good" exists before man exists, since before man was God and His nature. so, your understanding of it is inherently a finite version of it.

 does law exist outside of a relationship of a lesser and greater thing? no. without the lesser, it is just the greater's will.

[Sudhish86]

@Rekenbij, good and evil are not substances, laws, or qualities. it is obvious that the ORIGINAL source of any UN-GODLY-NESS is inherently another will.

if there was nothing with a will or with its own desires, there would be nothing with the ABILITY to raise itself over God. and without that ability, nothing not of God can come to exist anywhere, whether in heart, mind, or in physical form.

so, the pursuit of another will is itself against God. nothing else is. but the will exists for love.

[Sudhish86]

@Rekenbij, you make the point for me. anything that exists that is not in accordance to God's will DERIVES out of one's pursuit of the desires he has over submitted to God.

here is another way of describing sin: pursuing that which is vain, for everything that is not vain must inherently be of God.

God did not create evil in the sense that he created some "bad substance", for that is not inherently what evil is.

continue....