The Trinity doctrine is confusing because It doesn't make sense, it is not in agreement with the holy scriptures, and the Trinity doctrine is never taught or emphasized in the bible. It is a man made teaching. A man made teaching that distracts people from the truth preventing them from developing an accurate understanding of the holy scripture. Therefore the trinity doctrine is ANTICRIST because it goes against Jesus' teachings.
When Jesus was on earth he never took any explicit credit. He gave all credit to his Father. He never said that he is God or took credit for any of his works. If Jesus and god were one and the same and he wanted us to know that why wouldn't Jesus explain or communicate that to us? It also doesn't make sense to me that Jesus would pray to his father if he is his father. Because that would mean that he is praying to himself which would get absolutely nothing accomplished.
The Trinity & baptism are central. We’re made in God’s triune image –body, soul & spirit. Baptism, not just bodily immersion into H2O, but immersion of our entire triune being into the Triune God. With Acts 2:38;,8:16 & Gal 3:27 it’s clear water baptism most specifically identifies with Jesus. With Acts 1:5,10:47,11:16,1cor12:13 immersion & filling is with the Holy Spirit. But the Holy Spirit only comes into repentant hearts (Act 2:37).
How come they can't actually be three persons? God, being the creator, created the concept of father, son and mother. I am not suggesting the holy spirit is female or that Jesus as a son was given a birthday and thus did not always exist. I am just trying to figure this out myself in a way I can understand. I wonder if they are three persons but one in unity to each other. If God the father says that the three of us our one. Then to honor the son is to honor the father. Same for holy spirit :-)
@mickeyblueeyes123 Liberty in Messiah does not mean Freedom to Sin - Mat 7:21-23 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?'And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'
@mickeyblueeyes123 Php 2:12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling,
mickeyblueeyes123 wow! really? jesus is not Yahshua?... really? Same name diff language... the Trinity is man made doctrine. The roman emperor constantine introduced this pagan belief to christianity in order to gain political power among the pagans and the christians. Who did jesus pray to when he was on earth? himself? does that make sense?I don't believe that God had the bible written to teach us about him only to leave us shrouded in mystery. which the trinity is.
its sad to see so many people like you liveing in FEAR all the time thinking you can loose you're salvation ,What a deception of controll that was put in place by the Roman Cathlic Church in 325ad it was ment to controll the masses . it is written that there is liberty to those who are in Christ Jesus and where is that Liberty if you live in fear all the time ,Jesus died for you and all mankind the sting of death is swollowed up and his gift is everlasting life Given without repentance
@mickeyblueeyes123 1Tim 3:16 - He who was manifested in the Flesh? What about it? Rev 1:7 - They pierced Yahshua, OK i agree. John 1 - In the beginning was the Word, v.14 - the Word became flesh - OK I agree - Yahshua Fulfilled the Prophecies (Word of GOD), hence the Word Became Flesh. Do you believe Yehovah our GOD is One? Deut 6:4? Yahshua taught this in Mark 12:29 - do you believe the LORD (yehovah) is ONE? Read Deut 18:18-19? Whos the prophet? Read Psalm 110:1, Isaiah 42, 61, etc.
The Trinity doctrine is confusing because It doesn't make sense, it is not in agreement with the holy scriptures, and the Trinity doctrine is never taught or emphasized in the bible. It is a man made teaching. A man made teaching that distracts people from the truth preventing them from developing an accurate understanding of the holy scripture. Therefore the trinity doctrine is ANTICRIST because it goes against Jesus' teachings.
kr4zzyf3113r08 10 months ago
When Jesus was on earth he never took any explicit credit. He gave all credit to his Father. He never said that he is God or took credit for any of his works. If Jesus and god were one and the same and he wanted us to know that why wouldn't Jesus explain or communicate that to us? It also doesn't make sense to me that Jesus would pray to his father if he is his father. Because that would mean that he is praying to himself which would get absolutely nothing accomplished.
kr4zzyf3113r08 10 months ago
The Trinity & baptism are central. We’re made in God’s triune image –body, soul & spirit. Baptism, not just bodily immersion into H2O, but immersion of our entire triune being into the Triune God. With Acts 2:38;,8:16 & Gal 3:27 it’s clear water baptism most specifically identifies with Jesus. With Acts 1:5,10:47,11:16,1cor12:13 immersion & filling is with the Holy Spirit. But the Holy Spirit only comes into repentant hearts (Act 2:37).
messianicreformer 1 year ago
How come they can't actually be three persons? God, being the creator, created the concept of father, son and mother. I am not suggesting the holy spirit is female or that Jesus as a son was given a birthday and thus did not always exist. I am just trying to figure this out myself in a way I can understand. I wonder if they are three persons but one in unity to each other. If God the father says that the three of us our one. Then to honor the son is to honor the father. Same for holy spirit :-)
theflarpus 1 year ago
my christians brothers stop worshiping jesus a man like you and me ,jesus took a shit !can you imagine god doing this?
izlamiztruth 1 year ago
@mickeyblueeyes123 Liberty in Messiah does not mean Freedom to Sin - Mat 7:21-23 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?'And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'
markpaghi 1 year ago
@mickeyblueeyes123 Php 2:12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling,
markpaghi 1 year ago
mickeyblueeyes123 wow! really? jesus is not Yahshua?... really? Same name diff language... the Trinity is man made doctrine. The roman emperor constantine introduced this pagan belief to christianity in order to gain political power among the pagans and the christians. Who did jesus pray to when he was on earth? himself? does that make sense?I don't believe that God had the bible written to teach us about him only to leave us shrouded in mystery. which the trinity is.
DownHavenFilms 1 year ago
its sad to see so many people like you liveing in FEAR all the time thinking you can loose you're salvation ,What a deception of controll that was put in place by the Roman Cathlic Church in 325ad it was ment to controll the masses . it is written that there is liberty to those who are in Christ Jesus and where is that Liberty if you live in fear all the time ,Jesus died for you and all mankind the sting of death is swollowed up and his gift is everlasting life Given without repentance
mickeyblueeyes123 1 year ago
@mickeyblueeyes123 1Tim 3:16 - He who was manifested in the Flesh? What about it? Rev 1:7 - They pierced Yahshua, OK i agree. John 1 - In the beginning was the Word, v.14 - the Word became flesh - OK I agree - Yahshua Fulfilled the Prophecies (Word of GOD), hence the Word Became Flesh. Do you believe Yehovah our GOD is One? Deut 6:4? Yahshua taught this in Mark 12:29 - do you believe the LORD (yehovah) is ONE? Read Deut 18:18-19? Whos the prophet? Read Psalm 110:1, Isaiah 42, 61, etc.
markpaghi 1 year ago