Three Irish Tenors - The Battle Hymn Of The Republic
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@Kilejko Actually... this is the Mormon version ;)
As far as i remember in Julia Ward Howes Original Text it WAS "let us DIE to make man free" ;-) As it was a BATTLE March for the Norths´ Soldiers
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@RevDrWally the irish tenors do sing LIVE but the original and proper version is indeed DIE to make men free.It is sad that modern fancies make us think we are entitled to rewrite in order to suit current trends instead of viewing it from the point of time in which it was penned.
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@RevDrWally Actually, it is either way. My chorus did LIVE and other choruses do DIE. It is actually die, at least in our music.
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*sniffle* SO FREAKING AWSOME!!!!
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Nonsense: Volume IX, Number III, of the Atlantic Monthly, dated Feburary, 1862, shows "die to make men free."
Unless, of course, you have a set of lyrics that predates February, 1862? Thought not.
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@Danthemanwithaplan7 You are so very right. We are God's children killing one another. I pray for a time when there will be no reason to make the decision between aggressor and defender.
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@Danthemanwithaplan7: So you'd make no distinction b/t the Nazis & their victims? As I said, empty moral equivolence. You'd act above it all by prattling sophomoric "antiwar" cliches then seek any real understanding. The way you distinguish b/t aggressors & defenders is noting who has done the aggression & who is defending themselves from that aggression. We live in a world of facts. Those facts have a logic arrangement. That order has moral meaning, try to find it.
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@VictorLepanto We are in the same pit fool. We are all humans and in a war where both sides seek victory how do you draw the line between aggressor and defender? God likely only sees his children killing each other. And sir your argument igonres the humanity of war. Not all the Germans who died in WWII were evil Nazis, and the years of destruction and hardship and living hell following the war were not glorious either. Fool, we are all people, both sides of any war are human.
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@Danthemanwithaplan7: That is a nonsensical morally vacuous statement. Such a mindless equivocal statement makes no distinction b/t aggressors & defenders. The innocent & those abuse them. Was there no glory in bringing about the end of Nazism. Was their no glory in standing up to this evil & being willing to die to end it? Do you imagine our God indulges a a childish sentimentality like yours & places the defender & the aggressor in the same pit?
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@Kilejko: No. The original words were, "Let us die to make men free." It was written in the midst of the Civil War. The author was a dedicated apolitionist & very much wanted the war to be a literal crusade (a war of the cross) to free the slaves. This version omits the stanza which talks about the Union troops writing a firey gospel w/ their flashing bayonetes. Really quite radical if you think about it.
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@RevDrWally actually in some versions it is let us die to make them free. after all, this was rewritten for the Grand Army of the Republic who were dying to set slaves free.
The correct lyrics are "as he died to make men holy, let us LIVE to make men free".
RevDrWally 1 year ago
@RevDrWally thanks
Kilejko 1 year ago