The fundamental Group of the Torus is abelian
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MMMM...Donuts....
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..the only video for the search-string "abelian" by now
hopefully this will change in the future =)
horaay educational youtube!!
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exactly what I was looking for thanks! I've seen a non-direct proof that the fundamental group of a torus is ZxZ but I couldn't see how it was abelian...This is a really good visualisation.
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?? Is it true only when the idea of "vector" not involved?
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@dampf0Y0ente what does abelian mean?
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@bothmer !! penny dropped, cheers! I get it, toris has two groups in third symmetry, mobius has one group in two symmetries. Far out, I'm not mensa material by any measure, but I had an art teacher 20 years ago that showed me the 3 curve toris dilemma, and it's bugged me ever since. Thanks again.
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I do not know what you guys are talking about. Yay! Something new to apply my genius toward.
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thanks man it's been a year since my comment I have ince corrected my ideas on the fundgrp of the torus :)
concerning commutativity, you could say that it is commu as the fundgrp of a topological grp, without even knowing its exact structure.
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@sorrysonofa the toru's fundamental group is ZxZ, cartesian product, since the torus is S^1xS^1 homotopy equivalent. Z is abelian with the usual sum, so the cartesian ZxZ is abelian with induced sum (a,b)+(c,d)=(a+c,b+d).
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now I can make a donut by myself
If the cartesian symmetry of a torus is a mobius, then is is the fundamental group of a mobius a circle?
breaneainn 1 year ago
@breaneainn: The fundamental group of the Toris is ZZ x ZZ. The fundamental group of the mobius strip is ZZ since it can be contracted to a circle.
bothmer 1 year ago 2
this is really cool! your explanation made it an interesting little lesson. thanks.
SpaceIceGirl 5 years ago 2
Glad you liked it!
bothmer 5 years ago