Violence Begets Violence: Violent Elements in the ALF

DISCLAIMER: This video intentionally focusses on the negative actions of those who label themselves members of the Animal Liberation Front. I do not discount the wonderful work undertaken by both the members of the ALF and Open Rescue organisations. I am all for the liberation of exploited animals and couldn't give a damn about the "property damage" which members of the animal exploitation and killing industries would see it as. The suffering of ANY sentient creature, human or non-human is ALWAYS more important then money!

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Nonprofits & Activism

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• ALF
• veganism
• vegan
• vegetarian
• activism
• peaceful
• protest

[fetus2genius1]

Put my burner in the air so the pacifists know

[NiceGuyCody]

@kimberlily1983

""doesn't that say something about how seriously we take animal rights?"

No, it just demonstrates that you're crazed sociopaths who think nothing of using violence and terrorism to push an extremist and nonsensical life philosophy on other people.

[TheChoujinVirus]

@gqpadillac

and you are a sick individual. This is why many Vegans are actually against this ideology of Animal Rights. This is the kind of rhetoric that is why you have the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act, why the Government sends agents and snitches into the movement, and why Operation Backfire exposed the true ideology of the ALF

These kinds of groups are Anti-Human.

Real people, like Theodore Roosevelt, Jacque Cousteau, and many others never had to resort to violence to care for animals

[MrSnitchkilla187]

Why is everybody crying about "violence". The ONLY thing wrong with ELF is they DONT use enough violence. These abusers of life on our planet deserve to burn with their buildings! Fuck anyone who doesn't support the heroic actions of the ALF/ELF!

[TheVeganerd]

active members in the A.L.F. aren't announcing themselves in online forums because the work they do is punishable under the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act, which labels any action causing over $10,000 losses or damage to an animal enterprise is terrorism, whether or not anyone has been injured. Oh, by Black Hebrew movement do you mean the African Hebrew Israelite community?

[TheVeganerd]

To considering spiders and rodents who might be harmed in an arson....let's say a million dollar ski lodge, play the tape forward if the lodge is built. Spiders and rodents would be killed in perpetuity for the lifespan of the lodge. With a fire the mammals have much better chance to escape instead of dying from poisoning or in traps later.

[kimberlily1983]

@kimberlily1983 (Just to correct myself, I implied the ALF supports violence, when they do not. They support other illegal means - property destruction, etc. The ARM, etc. support violence.)

[kimberlily1983]

@kimberlily1983 If humans and animals have equal claims, equal rights, etc. then the only consistent positions I can take are these: (1) violence is never justified to remove someone else from harm, human or non-human, & (2) violence is justified to remove someone, whether non-human or human, from harm. It's one or the other, people.

[kimberlily1983]

@kimberlily1983 If I were to say "It's okay to harm the rapist who's molesting a child, in order to get him to stop, but not okay to harm this other person who's sadistically torturing animals.", wouldn't I reveal myself to be valuing humans more than animals?

[kimberlily1983]

Hmm, I don't think you're being fair to the ALF's ideology. It's perfectly consistent to believe in human rights and non-violence, but to think that in some circumstances violence is necessary: namely, when violence is being done to people, it's perfectly legitimate to use violence against the perpetrators in order to stop that violence from happening. If it's okay to do it for people, but not okay to do it for animals, doesn't that say something about how seriously we take animal rights?