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  • Ignorant on so many levels.

  • You are so right! Love your videos.

  • lol who told you that tomatoes cannot be money in anarchist society?? Anarchists/Voluntarists believe that creation , use (or no creation, no use) of money is your own individual choice or absence of it (free market). You're free to do what fits you best, and let others do the same (unless it violates the no-violence principle). Money in anarchy is a medium of exchange, tomatoes are money just like gold is. you don't want to use gold - don't, use tomatoes instead - that's what an anarchy is.

  • I do not know how to make axes but I need one in order to make my home. No one will tell me because then they lose their trade. I can make spears but no axe-maker will trade me his secrets for a spear as they're too easy to make. I can't give him a surplus of spears as he has no need for that, it is still not worth it for him. If only I could save a portion of the value of each spear I sell and then offer the axe-maker this aggregate value after a year so that he can get what he does need.

  • What if you are a lowly downtrodden worker and you have no surplus to trade, no social or economic mobility? You think if only there was some way that I could get some sheep with nothing and then compensate the trust that was put in me. Jack is terrible at business but he has plenty of wealth. If I could somehow have him put value into me then I could grow my own farm with that and make us both better off.

  • What if you needed to trade your sheep for wood but the nearest quality wood was in Lebanon hundreds of miles away? You know the desert stretch between is treacherous and you will likely lose most of the sheep you've worked so hard to raise. Your ancestors died making that same journey. You started to think wouldn't it be better if I could trade my sheep here for something that represented their value, then give the Lebanese this so that they could buy local sheep and factor out the risk.

  • As this was all happening climates could change and did. Now there was no water. Now we had to build irrigation canals that swept through entire regions and needed regular maintenance. Now who was going to control this? Whoever did was going to have some degree of power over the others. Now people started showing this man obeisance.

  • I think you need to learn more about early human history and economics. This only feels like a problem because most people don't understand money properly; imo it seems like you don't. There was never a time in the whole of human history where you could put a single human anywhere and he could survive for a lifetime. We didn't used to grow our own food, other people used to grow our food; other people caught our animals and herded our sheep.

  • Prophetess Silvia Browne predicts that the world will be on some kind of bartering-system by the end of the 2020's.

  • You can still live the way you describe if you so choose. I do grow my own food. I use a cloth towel, not a disposable napkin. I walk or ride a bike where possible. I make a lot of my own stuff, down to furniture, herbal medicines, etc. I have some rainwater tanks that DO give me free water!

    I see money as way to measure value for trade purposes. However I do really hate floating exchange rates! It like constantly changing the length of a metre - impossible to accurately measure anything!

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