Tiger Woods vs. Ben Hogan Part 2

On the rare occasion when Tiger Woods is not playing well in a tournament, it seems that the television golf announcers are always quick to point out what they perceive to be a major flaw in Tiger's swing. In this Tiger vs Hogan swing comparison, this myth is not only dispelled but I will show that this same "flaw" is in fact a positive attribute possessed by many of the greatest players, including Ben Hogan.
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• golf swing analysis
• Ben Hogan
• Tiger Woods

[johnhayesiv]

jkjdv, take it easy bud!

[wdefrancesco]

@johnhayesiv He's had 3 months to settle down.

[jkjdv]

Those episodes on Titleist golf fitness academy were done by Dr. Rose himself and were meant to be used by the general golfing public, ANYONE who is healthy and capable enough to take golf as a physical endeavor. But the point is golf instruction has to evolve from the outdated mode of teaching just positions and fundamentals and needs to encompass a healthy set of targeted physical regimen to support the CORRECT application of those fundamentals; and Dr. Rose is doing just that.

[wdefrancesco]

@jkjdv You are not talking about golf instruction. You are talking about sport-specific physical training. My point is that while it is certainly a great idea to incorporate this kind of activity into your learning endeavor, it is your job to find a trainer who is knowledgeable and experienced and who can guide you individually through a program. Greg would not tell you to go it alone based on what is on his TV shows. He would tell you that a physical program is as individual as golf lessons

[jkjdv]

Refer to Titleist performance institute and golf fitness academy. Check the episodes in the Titleist golf fitness academy section. This is the model that all contemporary golf instruction should be based on. The info is tried and true and anyone can apply these regimens.

[wdefrancesco]

@jkjdv "Anyone can apply these regimens"? That is a dangerous thought. Greg Rose is a friend and I worked with him when he was based in Maryland. If you could work with him directly you would be getting individual instruction based on his knowledge and experience, which is vast. If you think you can get that kind of help from television or from an "accredited" TPI trainer who has hours of experience and second hand knowledge then you are sadly mistaken.

[scilles]

@wdefrancesco I find the entire TPI system to be nothing more than another scam vaguely based upon the model that Paul Chek used for scamming golfers years ago. Offer TPI certification, levels, etc. and charge exorbitant fees for moving up the ladder. Training golfers from a sports science perspective is so laughably easy, that it is a joke. Wayne, just as you are aware of the charlatans in golf instruction, so are others cogniscient of the same conmen and snake oil peddlers in sport training.

[JoeRellim]

If all good swings have the same impact position then heads will be lower. At address, the left shoulder is level with the neck. At impact, the left shoulder is much higher, and if the neck was higher as at address, the ball would be topped. Perhaps the only exception would be if, at address, a player created more angle between arms and shaft thus allowing his head to be lower. Then, when gravity and centrifugal force create a straighter angle, the height from shoulder to clubhead might be ok.

[Hersper]

Hello mr. Defrancesco, I was wondering what are your thought's about Hogan's hips getting deeper in the backswing. I haven't really seen many players do that deep a move, so could that be one of the reasons hogan was such a pure ballstriker? It seems that Hogans left hip isn't moving as much forward (from a dtl view) when compared to many others.

[johnhayesiv]

Hey Wayne could you do an analysis of Tiger during his "Tiger Slam" or maybe an early 90's swing when he hit it a mile

[steckleinjr]

@jkjdv "all contemporary golf instruction should be based on." --classic fear mongerer's phrase! you should research Don Trahan--you'd like him. You both know it all! I've known a couple of accomplished tournament players throughout the years who could A) pummel it and B) maintain handicaps on the plus side. Neither did more cardio than walking four feet away from their golf cart. and neither lifted more than 12 ounces at a time!

[xxxtumxxx]

@jkjdv ...backswing especially, but since i have begun dedicating time to that aspect of my physicality the consistency of my game has gone through the roof. now instead of shooting 100's i routinely shoot around 85 and have been chasing high 70's. for the record i'm 20 years old, 6'0, 155 (golfing since 12), during high school i registered a 35 inch vertical, was a powerlifting champion (hang cleaned 265) ran a 51 second 1/4 mile, and a 5 sport athlete. fitness training would help any golfer

[xxxtumxxx]

@jkjdv i would agree with the point you're trying to make. i broke my wrist (scaffoid bone, requires a full arm cast for 16 weeks and another 4 weeks in a short arm cast) and lost 95% of wrist flexibility, it wasnt until after lots of stretching and rehabing, specifically working on flexibility in the wrists, that i was finally able to lag the clubhead. once i realized this i began working on spine/hip/shoulder etc flexibility, it still feels weird to hit somewhat propper positions on my swing..

[ellis505]

does tigers dip cause problems when he will lean forward or back while compressing into ground, and this is why he struggles with balance?