3 Locos attack the hill

Midwest Central RR on the grounds of the Midwest Old Settlers and Threshers Reunion. 2004. Shay (what hill?) number 9, followed by Mogul (bit of an incline there!) number 6, and then Henschel (I'd better back up and take a running start!) number 16, on the hill into Snipe Run.

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[SemperVaporo]

That is not Walschaerts gear, it is Southern Valve Gear. I don't know what gear it was originally built with, but Southern was added when it was on the Surry, Sussex and Southampton, prior to being sold to Argent Lumber Co.

More info can be found on the mcrr dot org website

[SemperVaporo]

@bcschmerker: The Cocks discharge directly below the cylinders. I think the steam at the stack is the Blower was open. Lots of possible reasons for the engine not making the hill. For as big and clunky as a Steamer is, there are fine balances that must be maintained to get it to run perfectly and dozens of things that can upset those balances, not all of them are immediately cureable by the Fireman or Engineer and if they get wacky at the wrong moment then stuff like this happens.

[SR722]

Why did the Henschel stall? Were they using more coaches than usual that day ( I've seen it run without problems before)?

[SemperVaporo]

A few theories were advanced, see the previous comments. An engine that small should still be able to move that train, but with the cylinder cocks open a lot of power was being lost. It might also have had to stop at a signal back a short way and not had enough momentum then to make it, which may be why backing up (farther past the signal) could have helped it make it at the end.

[stinkstorm]

Old Threshers is a waste of money. They charge too much and there isn't much to see.

[SemperVaporo]

You obviously don't like to see working: Railroad Steam Locomotives, Electric Trollys, Antique cars, Stationary Steam, Diesel & Gas engines. Demonstrations of: Horse-drawn equipment, steam operated sawmill & veneer mill. Sorgum mill. Crafts: Pioneer & modern. More & better food than at the State Fair (Henry County Pork Producers "Pork burgers" [drool!!]). Carrosel. Pioneer Village, American-West town, Tool & swap tents, modern entertainment shows, Modern farm equip. More stuff than I can possibl

[SeriosProductions]

The 3 S's of climbing hills, Speed, Strength and Shay!

[75Bird455]

Interesting that that non superheated, slide valve equipped 2-6-0 had Walchaerts valve gear. I assume that was retrofitted?

[bcschmerker]

A lot of speculation about the reason for the 0-4-0t Henschel failing to full-pull the first attempt, where the 2-6-0 Baldwin succeeded. I noticed a steady blast of steam from the Henschel's stack on both attempts, rather than the timed chug of the Baldwin; do the cylinder purge cocks discharge into the smokebox?

[NGTmodels]

@SemperVaporo

Your comments about the cylinder cocks being open causing a loss of steam pressure. I expect the Driver wanted the ability to run more cut-off, and have a longer power stroke..., opening the cylinder cocks allows you do this without slipping the drivers so easily. There 'can be' some advantage to what the Driver is doing, we weren't there.

[tpvalley]

@SemperVaporo

it must have had to little pressure or a steam feed leak; the wheels werent even slipping and on such a small loco slippage should be the problem not stalling?!

is it a german import?

[Smoofie92]

what IS that on the second engine? Jiffy Pop Econo Size?

[PCLRmike]

@SemperVaporo

I hast to add you are wrong as a fireman on a railway in the uk and I own 3 working miniature loco's the advance of opening the drain cocks, Is to lower the risk of wheel spining the driver should af notch down on the forwards revering lever to full forward to increase the amout of steam entreing the cylinders

[Sundancetr4]

Ok .... Everybody get out and push..... The place looks like fun though!

[myleftnutts]

@0812201 And if by some chance,this is a large gauge miniature train,what gauge would this be???. and would this run to build today???.