Michael Shermer travels to Laurentian University in Sudbury, Canada, to strap on the "God Helmet" in neuroscientist Michael Persinger's lab that duplicates out-of-body experiences, near-death exper...
Michael Shermer travels to Laurentian University in Sudbury, Canada, to strap on the "God Helmet" in neuroscientist Michael Persinger's lab that duplicates out-of-body experiences, near-death experiences, alien abductions, and other paranormal phenomena.
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illnastic, noetic sciences are just theories. Interesting but so far, so substance to any of it. Of course they are now the "in" thing since they are featured on a best seller. But only that.
Just because this shit exists in the brain and can be stimulated doesnt mean that the paranormal isn't real...All this technology does for us is give us access to other realms which I think is quite cool!!! We should use this shit to enter the spiritual world not try to "demystify" it....Science is so cool in itself but scientisits can really spoil the fun for you sometimes....
@illnastic "We should use this shit to enter the spiritual world not try to "demystify" it....Science is so cool in itself but scientisits can really spoil the fun for you sometimes...."
Science can only work by demystifying. For some, finding out the truth spoils the fun. For others, it is the fun.
Science can not help in "entering the spiritual world", except if one agrees that the spiritual wold is only in one's mind.
I guess I do agree with you. But you make it seem as if the spiritual world isnt real because it "only" exists in the mind...To me, science is a lot like music theory in that shows why things sound good but its not the music itself you know? All this experiment ddoes is show that it can manipulate an OBE...
But to actually achieve one with your own mind actually takes a lot of skill and patience which in turn makes it a very spiritual endeavor...
The spiritual world being real of course depends much on the definition of "spiritual". Whether it means something that has a huge emotional impact (like music) or actually suggests that there are "spirits" i.e. some metaphysical beings outside the material world or one's consciousness somehow detaching from the body and moving somewhere outside the material world.
I respect your opinion....to me science is just a tool not the final form...but thats what makes it so cool and useful!!! You should delve into the field of noetic sciences. Theres a lot of cool stuff like this...
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"this has nothing to do with an OBE... its just tricking the mind...."
Well maube the OBE is just your mind tricking you.
"We should use this shit to enter the spiritual world not try to "demystify" it....Science is so cool in itself but scientisits can really spoil the fun for you sometimes...."
Science can only work by demystifying. For some, finding out the truth spoils the fun. For others, it is the fun.
Science can not help in "entering the spiritual world", except if one agrees that the spiritual wold is only in one's mind.
But to actually achieve one with your own mind actually takes a lot of skill and patience which in turn makes it a very spiritual endeavor...
I'm being rational and boring. ;-)
The spiritual world being real of course depends much on the definition of "spiritual". Whether it means something that has a huge emotional impact (like music) or actually suggests that there are "spirits" i.e. some metaphysical beings outside the material world or one's consciousness somehow detaching from the body and moving somewhere outside the material world.
I'll go with the "tricks of the mind" theory. ;-)