The power of Satan has been very much limited by the passion of Christ: for a thousand years; that is, for the whole time of the New Testament; but especially from the time of the destruction of Babylon or pagan Rome, till the new efforts of Gog and Magog against the church, towards the end of the world. During which time the souls of the martyrs and saints live and reign with Christ in heaven, in the first resurrection, which is that of the soul to the life of glory;
@LeoJM777 This is a belief that God's Church will be taken from the earth into heaven before the mark of the beast and most of revelation occurs. So the church will have no part when the the mark of the beast is issued and will escape the tribulation of those days.
The 2nd Advent and the rapture are the same event. This is Doug's point. The 2nd Advent/rapture begins the 1,000 years. During this time, the wicked are dead on the desolated earth, while the righteous resurrected/living changed, will reign with Christ in heaven. This can be called 'Heavenly premillennialism' and is opposed to dispensational, earthly reign premillennialism. Hope this helps :)
Right... Ever since the Roman siege of Jerusalem. The war incited by nero caused the destruction of jerusalem and the split of the 12 tribes, and in my opinion marks the beginning of the tribulation era. I believe that the christians slain with in this period are the ones mentioned in Revelation ch 6;11v. it's comforting that i'm not the only one to share these views.
Oh no problem about the misunderstanding...the rapture will occur after the tribulation and to go another step which you may not agree with, the tribulation has been going on since 70AD. It's at its climax now. Be watchful unto prayer. The way many teach the rapture/tribulation including Doug Batchelor is NOT what the scriptures nor the LORD has laid out. Email me. : )
Oh, I see! Sorry for the misunderstanding. But for what it's worth, i also believe that the rapture will occur during, or a little after tribulation. Why would the period even be called tribulation if no one's belief or faith is being tested. But, there are many people who believe in pre-trib rapture and I think that is wishful thinking.
as the second resurrection will be that of the body, at the day of the general judgment.
WeepingStellaMaris 5 months ago
The power of Satan has been very much limited by the passion of Christ: for a thousand years; that is, for the whole time of the New Testament; but especially from the time of the destruction of Babylon or pagan Rome, till the new efforts of Gog and Magog against the church, towards the end of the world. During which time the souls of the martyrs and saints live and reign with Christ in heaven, in the first resurrection, which is that of the soul to the life of glory;
WeepingStellaMaris 5 months ago
No Problem.
wilsonsmanz 2 years ago
Thanx man
LeoJM777 2 years ago
@LeoJM777 This is a belief that God's Church will be taken from the earth into heaven before the mark of the beast and most of revelation occurs. So the church will have no part when the the mark of the beast is issued and will escape the tribulation of those days.
wilsonsmanz 2 years ago
What is the pre-trib rapture?
LeoJM777 2 years ago
The 2nd Advent and the rapture are the same event. This is Doug's point. The 2nd Advent/rapture begins the 1,000 years. During this time, the wicked are dead on the desolated earth, while the righteous resurrected/living changed, will reign with Christ in heaven. This can be called 'Heavenly premillennialism' and is opposed to dispensational, earthly reign premillennialism. Hope this helps :)
rkg62976 2 years ago
Right... Ever since the Roman siege of Jerusalem. The war incited by nero caused the destruction of jerusalem and the split of the 12 tribes, and in my opinion marks the beginning of the tribulation era. I believe that the christians slain with in this period are the ones mentioned in Revelation ch 6;11v. it's comforting that i'm not the only one to share these views.
sageify 2 years ago
Oh no problem about the misunderstanding...the rapture will occur after the tribulation and to go another step which you may not agree with, the tribulation has been going on since 70AD. It's at its climax now. Be watchful unto prayer. The way many teach the rapture/tribulation including Doug Batchelor is NOT what the scriptures nor the LORD has laid out. Email me. : )
KTetteh 2 years ago
Oh, I see! Sorry for the misunderstanding. But for what it's worth, i also believe that the rapture will occur during, or a little after tribulation. Why would the period even be called tribulation if no one's belief or faith is being tested. But, there are many people who believe in pre-trib rapture and I think that is wishful thinking.
sageify 2 years ago