Language is a virus from outer space

Reading my blog entry: http://holoplex.tumblr.com/post/9474789005/language-is-a-virus-from-outer-space

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[FluidBen]

Good night! I just read Heavy Liquid and then I come across your video...I tend to be more in line with PKD (Philip K. Dick) in this regard I think. It seems like language itself is an entity that exists outside of our direct control, replicating itself in order to satisfy some as yet undetermined goal. Interesting bit about the evolutionary necessity of language, as well. Why should we speak? Wow. Just...wow. Run for president friend.

[HoloplexProductions]

@FluidBen Philip K. Dick is certainly amongst some of the influential thinkers who've shaped my thoughts on language, his exegesis is a dizzyingly bizarre and yet strange familiar. Well if I may, could one suggest that "language" (i.e. symbolic processes) are a form of universal "computation" building in complexity. A "simulation" simulating simulations. "Mind" minding minds. Ouroboros.

[FluidBen]

@HoloplexProductions I have to ask why are the initial simulation and mind in quotations? Are they allusions to the ultimately arbitrary nature of the terms? I ask because of the Ouroboros reference. Simulation being used to denote the unreality of reality, and likewise with Mind signifying the, hmm, only thought? . All experience being a sort of mass sense perception of realization. Language providing an auditory and, recently, orthographic means to that end?

[HoloplexProductions]

@FluidBen Yes, I er on the side of caution, so much of language is metaphor and ultimately words are equivocal, they elicit different mental maps in each individual based on their learned associations. One could compare "dream" to "simulation" but that doesn't mean they are.exactly the same. Just as one may call all that is "universe" and another may call it "multiverse" etc. (cont)

[HoloplexProductions]

@HoloplexProductions I don't consider the mind to be merely the object of thoughts, but rather an ongoing recursive reinstantiation that emerges ultimately as a neural (and social) process (see neural network).

Language being the meta-technology that enables epigenetic evolution, complexity builds on complexity. watch?v=R5Sk098TV7U

[HoloplexProductions]

@HoloplexProductions also... watch?v=n3opRNxqYWw

[tonyfalca]

Very interesting perspectives on language!

[FluidBen]

@HoloplexProductions I understand, and perhaps I should more clearly define my understanding of the concept of thought...which, now that this one thinks about it, is quite similar to what this one sees in your use of neural network. Spiritus Mundi.

[datguyoverdere12]

@HoloplexProductions well

[HoloplexProductions]

@datguyoverdere12 I'm speaking poetically and playing on a meme which William Burruoughs started several decades ago. Emotions are certainly more decipherable than language, but not everyone is able to emote.