2010 Subaru Outback 2.5i Limited 0-60mph CVT Trans

Got to use the 2.5i Limited Outback for the day. Very nice car overall. a little too big for my tastes, but very well put together. I like the heated seats. Gauges are nice. Controls are easy to get to. Projector low beams put out adequate light, and fuel economy is registering around 31mpg on the highway @60mph. This Outback is equiped with their CVT transmission. Very very weird feeling driving it, especially when you watch the RPMS sit and sit forever, and you're waiting for it to shift..

Category:

Autos & Vehicles

Tags:

• Subaru
• Outback
• 2.5L
• 2.5i Limited
• Boxer Engine
• 0-60mph
• AWD
• CVT Trans
• car
• 2010
• Four-wheel Drive

[rosstorpedo]

i don't understand, i see this in every car with a cvt, when the maximum power is demanded from the system via the accelerator at the max, the revolutions should immediately go to the engines peak power setting, and stay there, so the car will get maximum acceleration. in this demonstration you can clearly see that the engine goes from 4000 to 6000 rpm not hitting max power at all. my question is what gives? can the cvt just not handle the torque, or is some efficiency program getting in the way

[BuffmanLT1]

@rosstorpedo peak power is not right at redline. IIRC peak HP is obtained on this motor @5600rpm

[xoquixxoqafxo]

awful CVT... subaru pisses me off, they should have developed a 6AT instead of taking the Nissan route with this CVT

[BuffmanLT1]

@xoquixxoqafxo No disagreements from me. I'm not a CVT fan..

[MrKurt1962]

@xoquixxoqafxo ...I don't know.... the CVT in the Nissan Altima and Sentra work pretty well from what i understand... maybe Nissan has perfected the CVT.

[Flaheat]

@xoquixxoqafxo

They had no choice with increasing fuel economy standards. This hulking beast of a wagon will get 31 mpg highway.

[aceflyer89]

The only thing I see good with a CVT is when you're going up a 60% grade (chuckles a bit) and wish to stop and then go ... yeah sure, it's really neat for your gearbox; less stress. But other than that, if I want power ...meh, either Manual or nothing haha

[daand12]

CVT make your rods coming out the block :) Even my scooter makes 7800rpm with the CVT. also 4cycle

[dangleesac102]

That is weird

[MrDaBassMan]

@BuffmanLT1 Exactly, plus different speeds require either more HP or more TQ to move the car which is also provided at different RPMs so the ECM will adjust the RPMs based on the speed and throttle of the car at all times providing the best balance regardless of the situation.

[SparkDischarge]

@rosstorpedo Purely programming.

Nissan does similar stuff. Peak power is not attained until 60mph. When in the lowest gear, peak power can be had at 30/35 mph.

[SparkDischarge]

@xoquixxoqafxo 6?

They can/should replace their JATCO 5 speed, with the JATCO 7 speed.

Those poor vehicles with 4 speed autos, should be replaced with 8 speed.

CVT's are on the way out, they are lacking in ratio spread.

Subaru's Lineartronic only has 6.3:1, which is 5% better than traditional 6 speed autos. (and Subaru puts that extra ratio spread on the top end, for better mileage)

[benbury90]

Dude! you're MP is at Negative!!

[RubberSalt]

@rosstorpedo Im not sure if it pretains to this engine, but others i have seen.. The load on the engine is the main reason it doesn't go to instant max RPM. The belt keeps it from doing so. Now with other designs(polaris) you can adjust the clutches to allow for higher RPM before it has to much of a load. Allow for a higher stall - vary tuneable for polaris design(snow mobile and quads).

I imagine this limits it in a similar way. Engine just can muscle it.