A clear and succinct explanation of why the doctrines of the atonement and original sin do not make any logical sense.
Without Adam there is no fall, no original sin and no need for a substitutionary atonement.
For those who say that this proves that Adam must have existed, please think on this:
If I told you I had fairies at the bottom of my garden you would expect me to provide objective evidence for my claim. The same burden of proof is required for any religious argument such as the existence of Adam. Simply using one source (the bible) to validate itself is not good enough.
@TimothyRohe Sir, a series of hypothesis built upon one another with consistent, predictable, observable results. does not describe evolution. for one know has ever witness or is it possible to witness or observe the type of evolution you are talking about for it takes billlions of years as my textbook so plainly tells me. Second how can you say know macro evolution is predicable when nobody has ever witnessed it or can recreate it in a laboratory. Lastly, a Theory is still only a guess. not law
CaliforniaSkins 1 day ago
@TimothyRohe Frankly, It sounds to me that your beliefs in evoultuion is based more on faith than on evidence because you just admitted that the very evidence that would prove evolution is nearly impossible find. So with that said i believe God of the Bible exist and that his word is true. You believe Evolution is true not because of the overwhelming evidence that completyly disproves God or proves evolution but because when you see the evidence you see evolution and when i see it i see God.
CaliforniaSkins 1 day ago
@CaliforniaSkins And as I've said, only a tiny, tiny fraction of organisms will fossilize, and only a tiny, tiny fraction of those fossils will be found or survive long enough to be found. So, not (yet) possessing any intermediate fossils does not mean those organisms did not exist. And, evolution is not out to disprove god in anyway. In fact, there's no reason for it to. All evolution proves is that creationism and intelligent design are bogus.
TimothyRohe 6 days ago
@CaliforniaSkins This is one of my favorite misconceptions people make about the word theory in a scientific context. It DOES NOT mean a guess or a hunch, but a series of hypothesis built upon one another with consistent, predictable, observable results. Dismissing evolution as 'only a theory' is like saying germs, relativity, gravity, and plate tectonics are all just guesses. These are principals we know to be true, just like evolution.
TimothyRohe 6 days ago
@TimothyRohe.my point is scientist have not made convincing with out a doubt discoveries of intermediate fossils which would prove evolution to be true, which is why Evolution is still only a theory. Which you would think would be pretty easy if evolution were true. With that said im not an expert on this and am still learning. But the huge glaring flaw of evolution seems to be its inability to soundly disproof the God of the Bible, while (said with complete bias) God words remain true.
CaliforniaSkins 1 week ago
@CaliforniaSkins The chances of finding a fossil of every creature that has ever lived on earth is a pretty ludicrous expectation. For example, if all seven billion humans on earth were to drop dead today, less than one percent of us would fossilize. Of that less than one percent, less than one percent would be found by any hypothetical future archaeologists. And species tend to evolve in rather predictable manners, thanks to well understood and reinforced empirical evidence.
TimothyRohe 1 week ago
@CaliforniaSkins Close, except for the fun fact that the oldest known remains of anatomically modern humans is about 195-200 kya. And the Moon moves about 3.8 cm away from the earth each year (roughly the rate at which your fingernails grow), and one light year is about 6 trillion miles. Shall I do the math for you? This is the beautiful thing about science and numbers, they're true even when you don't believe in them.
TimothyRohe 1 week ago
@CaliforniaSkins The fossil record also lacks the massive amount of intermediate creatures that should be every where throughout the fossil record if evolution were true. Also, if the earth were billions of years old the moon would be light years away by now since it is well know the moon is moving away from the earth also the oceans would be inhabitatble due to the ever increasing amount of salt being added in the oceans.
CaliforniaSkins 1 week ago
@TimothyRohe. The theory of evolution all stands on the assumption that creatures evolve over a extremely long period of time. With this said it is a fact that when you look at the fossil record human being suddenly appear onto the scene around 6 to 10 thousand years ago. Neanderthal man along with the other supossed pre humans are arguably humans as well.
CaliforniaSkins 1 week ago
@CaliforniaSkins No, it's not.
TimothyRohe 2 weeks ago