Fate/Stay Night Extra Tracks - Church on the Hill

Extra bonus tracks not included in the OSTs

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[fr49200]

Personally he's one of my most favorite characters. No matter how twisted his logic is it makes sense because his logic is based on how the world works, so when he says something evil, its not really him thats evil its the whole world. Makes him really sound like a false prophet. Nasu-sensei did a really good job with his character,

[DarkAdonisVyers]

You know what would be the best thing? If someone went to church and actually hear this playing.

[RonaldMina]

@RyanAshlight Kotomine acknowledges he enjoyed the suffering of his wife and child. There's even more related to what actually brings him pleasure in the Fate/Zero novels. Lastly, this section, written by Nasu himself (you'll have to make a functional URL yourself) tatari byethost33 com/fuyuki/misccharacters.htm#­KotomineKirei

[RyanAshlight]

@RonaldMina

Perception is everything here, and when you think about it, Kirei was just in the wrong line of work. If he had taken up a mantel similar to a Magus Killer like Kiritsugu - with his skills, he probably would've excelled at it above most anyone.

IMHO, it was his relentless persistence in trying to conform to society's expectations that caused him the most suffering.

[RyanAshlight]

@RonaldMina

Your argument is valid based solely on the preconception on that what Kirei takes pleasure in is in fact evil. That's precisely what I mean by Kirei's mistake in that he holds too much value in others' opinions.

Kirei's fundamental flaw isn't that he takes pleasure in the suffering of others, but that he allowed himself to be swayed into thinking he was a twisted individual, when in fact he's merely at odds with the majority around him.

[RonaldMina]

@RyanAshlight I disagree. Kirei himself acknowledged there was something very wrong in him. He almost perfectly mastered many skills, but abandoned them on the brink of completion because it gave him no joy. He took pleasure in evil and the suffering of others, even those closest to him, yet still had a conscience. He was born twisted. It's not his fault, of course. It was just the caprice of fate.

[RyanAshlight]

@fr49200

I disagree on the premise that it's neither Kirie nor the world at large that's evil, but it's Kirie overly conscious attitude towards it that might make it seem as such.

You're correct with respect to his logic, but one of Kirie's fundamental problems is that he could never love himself as a person. Believing himself to have some inherent flaw, one could argue that Kirie depended on others in order to validate his existence in not so different a way than Shirou.

[RyanAshlight]

@farispie1

I disagree. Yes, the acts that Kirie committed were indeed those that can be considered evil, but Kirie himself is not an evil person.

Kirie's fundamental issue lies with both rejection and acceptance, both in terms of society and himself. I believe that, as an individual, he was always far too concerned with the ways of the world and not enough with his own person to come to any definitive conclusions, thus why he questioned himself more than anyone else.

[farispie1]

Kotomine Kirie: Not a villain but an evil person. Not inhuman but deviant. Not insane but also not sane. The biggest enemy in Fate saga, the final boss in fate/stay night (Saber route and Sakura route) and Zero. If Archer is a light embossing of Shirou's defects, then Kotomine could be said to be the wall exposing those defects by darkness. Like Shirou, a void human being.

[MaskJackal100]

@1337penguinking That's part of the appeal. He's completely obvious, Tousaka calls him a fake priest, blah blah blah. His character just makes sense in that role, and is awesome because of it.

[alguLoD]

Dude... If I went to church and this was playing, I'd shit my pants.

[1337penguinking]

sigh, i really wanted to love Kotomine he had everything i like in a villain: good theme music, twisted sense of the world and is a giant douche which i admire in a person. but I just couldn't. as soon as he popped up i said "well look at that a main villain, i'll bet he will pretend to be on our side while secretly betraying me."