Edinburgh Risk and Security Management Iraq

Edinburgh Risk and Security Management Ambushed in Iraq

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[vikingbloodUS]

gearbox011....maybe it was due to the wounded in the car being abandoned. I think its understandable he fled from a position that didnt provide cover, but the fact 2 men basically bled to death makes me wonder at what point he(and the others) did actually get around to rendering aid. Hits to the femoral artery are tricky and very often fatal, but 2 out of 2 dying from this makes me skeptical that appropriate aid was rendered. Cant tell from the video though. 

[stripe62]

I feel sorry for them; the sheer number of errors made and time taken to brake from contact is just appalling.

[billconner718]

I want this video on my GD900 Crystal phone.

[CarolusIV]

Consider that in many of his larger training classes, the final "test" is a scenario similar to this one.

I think his training program is Yeager's own, strange way of trying to atone for what happened. I think he relives this five minutes every day of his life.

[txcombatvetx2]

What bothers me is his lack of caring for his fallen brothers. Not once in any of his "videos" does he offer a dedication to them. I think he's a selfish prick that had the opportunity to stand tall, but chose self preservation over sacrifice for others. That's what separates the great from the mediocre. He survived that day, but he did so in a manner that does not constitute valor. I would be ashamed to train people had I acted in that manner. His AAR was scathing against his comrades in arms.

[Sleeper362]

Ever hear the phrase like shooting fish in a barrel? Anyone who says they should have stayed in the car is an idiot. A 9mm will penetrate a car straight through, let alone a 7.62X39. The only two places that are somewhat safe on a car in a firefight is the engine block and the rear axle. Staying in the car puts neither of those two pieces between you and the BGs in a broadside ambush. All staying in does is limit your movement to the interior dimensions of the car.

[26wordy]

Yeah I agree GunnyClint,it looks bad admittedly especially when it turns out his was the only vehicle in the end that could've cleared the ambush but he forgot what gearboxes were and how they were used. Having said that I dont suppose there's much future using unarmoured vehicles for cover when rounds are clearly slicing through them next to you.Someone got hit right next to him and he clearly wasnt prepared/trained for such an occasion.

[GunnyClint]

The group was being spotted by a bad guy and I think they knew it. When the shooting started the lead car was in nuetral with the brake on, he mistakenly thought it was "down" because it didn't move when he tried, so he bailed. (his words from a statement he made) No plan apparently for the other 2 vics to support maybe, but another ended up actually down in the end. Can't pass judgement it wans't me taking fire at that minute. Real easy to armchair it.

[gearbox011]

I don't understand why people are calling James Yeager a coward. Can someone explain it to me? He got out of the car which was an immediate death trap (Unarmored) went prone and returned fire.

[SirJohnA]

@huntwithairguns I have no idea where you took your training but Yeager made the right move! Staying with the vehicles was NOT an option! Driving away was NOT an option! Get educated you armchair General!