1.04:"Re: Thunderf00t friend or foe? Plot twist...."

My first mostly non-political video, just a response to VenomFangX's troubles with some Athiests on YouTube.

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Hello VenomFangX, and my loyal friends and subscribers, this video will be the first of mine outside of the political spectrum.

Atheism is linked to Liberalism just as strongly as Christianity is linked to Conservatism. This is not to say that there is no crossover, but Conservative views such as pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, etc are clearly on the right side of the spectrum, as pro-Abortion, pro-Homosexual Marriage, etc are linked to Atheism.

This link symbiotic, in pure Atheism, Conservatism cannot exist, the closest you can get is Libertarianism.

The famous author C.S. Lewis was once an Atheist, in fact he was quite outspoken, he recalls that before his conversion he hated God for not existing. This may sound comical, but it isnt that difficult to understand.

Now, its obvious that people like Thunderf00t and TheAmazingAthiest do indeed believe in God, or else there would be no reason to fight against him so much.

Think of it this way, if Atheists are correct, then what? Nothing would happen, everyone is assigned to the same fate, and therefore there is no reason for an Atheist to attempt to convert people. If Christianity is correct, then Atheists go to Hell. Because of this, it would seem the logical choice would be to err on the side of caution, which would cost you nothing except a few Sundays at church, living a virtuous life, and accepting Jesus Christ as God.

In any case VenomFangX, I think it would be prudent to ignore people like this. Youve been fairly forthcoming, though a bit eccentric at times. After so long though, you certainly know that they are in a state of mind as strong as a Jihadist, they will never submit to logic nor reason, nothing short of being knocked off a horse by God would convince them otherwise. This doesnt mean that you shouldnt continue your ministry, it just means that you should focus on those you can indeed save.

If a ship is sinking, grab the people closest to you, dont swim down to the lower decks to grab others first. Some have to find their way higher out of the sinking hull before you can grab hold of them.

As for C.S. Lewis, perhaps his story of conversion will give you some hope. He said:

You must picture me alone in that room in Magdalen, night after night, feeling, whenever my mind lifted even for a second from my work, the steady, unrelenting approach of Him whom I so earnestly desired not to meet. That which I greatly feared had at last come upon me. In the Trinity Term of 1929 I gave in, and admitted that God was God, and knelt and prayed: perhaps, that night, the most dejected and reluctant convert in all England.

Three years later, he converted from an agnostic to a Christian. Remember, the Bible says that everybody, regardless of what they believe, will one day confess that Jesus Christ is God. It will happen, we can only hope that it happens for these people before its too late.

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[TravisTCleveland]

Alright! I gotta get some sleep, feel free to keep arguing with the many people who come! ^^

Honestly, this is a subject I would love to debate, and you guys certainly seem passionate. Personally, I think text debates are difficult, maybe I'm just a bad typer...anyway, good night.

[soulinite]

1- If something has passed peer review it means it's survived extensive scruity by recognized experts int the feild in questions have staked their reputations that the information in the study is accurate.

Kents arguments are mostly just lies. He claims for example that "neaderthal man was just an old man with rickets" when DNA testing has proven that Neaderthals were a completely diferent species from modern humans.

[krayzewolf]

Travis, The problem here isnt about God with VFX and TF. Its about that VFX went and filed a false DMCA complaint on TF. VFX is in the wrong for blatantly and purposefully tried to rip TFs freedom of speech away by lying. This is about right and wrong and VFX is very much in the wrong here and should pay any consequences that go along with filing false DMCA on another YT user. This isn't a bible fight, it's about free speech.

[sulthus]

@TravisTCleveland The most ANYONE can be is an agnostic.

[MrKneller]

any kind of resonance. Atheists don't believe in Hell, so we don't fear the threat of eternal damnation. We already know that there is a very slim chance that we could be wrong. We accept that. If your God does exist and is willing to put someone through eternal torture for no other reason than using the free will granted him, then your God is a dick. Sorry. Now can we please retire Pasqual's Wager once and for all? Please?

[MrKneller]

Pasqual's Wager is amongst the most foolish arguments that Christians bring out. Anyone who uses it without realizing the OBVIOUS counter question (what if you chose the wrong God? What if the Egyptians/Muslims/Aztecs had it right? Should you really risk an eternity of damnation with THEIR God by not believing?) might as well have the words, "unthinking moron" branded across their forehead.

Furthermore, this argument is flawed because it requires the recipient to believe in Hell for it to have

[SpazzyMcGee1336]

This is a terrible video that shows an utter ignorance to how I perceive the world, not surprising from a supporter of Venom.

How does the disbelief in God mean I have no stake in this world? I have all the reason to not want delusion and aggressive ignorance such as YEC. You Christians intertwine your belief in so many aspects of your life you are incapable of understanding people who don't believe exactly as you do.

[Swecan76]

Another moronic Christian....

Atheists don't argue or hate God, he doesn't exist remember.

We argue with the believers that spread their ignorance all over the place like the plague.

Abusing children in places like the "jesus camp".

Pascal's wager is the dumbest fucking thing ever thought off, next to God.

So your God wouldn't know if I was just erring on the side of caution, I really don't believe but I would pretend so I can join the holy fornication of heaven.

How fucken stupid is this claim

[vids721]

It is because of people like you that atheists need to be outspoken! With your false dichotomy known as "Pascal's Wager" being thrown into the mix. That has been debunked numerous times by different people, feel free to youtube "Pascal's Wager Debunked". Should VFX ignore youtube atheists? I would hope not, because he would be showing that he cannot defend his point (not that his attempts are any MORE helpful, he just digs himself in deeper with false information).

[wyattmcintyre]

Definately an interesting video. Keep it up my friend

[johuth]

You can hate the idea of God. That doesn't mean that God is real you can still hate an idea. You can hate communism any other system that dictates how people should live their lives it doesn't mean that God is real. I hate it when people think that all atheists are angry because that just isn't the case with all atheists. Some Atheists just hate hearing about something that they know isn't true realistically the same way Christians don't like to hear reason sometimes.

[GodNot4Sale]

pascals fucking wager?

[Remainingcharacter]

"...which would cost you nothing except a few sundays at church, living a virtuous life, and accepting Jesus Christ as the son of god"... Oh and your foreskin, (if your male, your dignity, or ability to discern reality from fantasy, your trustability (as the worlds prisons are filled with believers), all medical and scientific endeavors (ironic I'm using my "human" created computer to spout the most blatant example of Pascal's wager), and any credibility in discussions held by grown ups.