1904 Thompson Lagarde Bullet Tests and US Military Caliber Select

The Philipine Insurection of 1902 and the Thonpson Lagarde Bullet Tests of 1904 proved the .38 caliber bullet ineffective. This video is a very brief look at how the .45 caliber bullet became the minimum size bullet for the US Military side arm. The companies that were competing for the contract to produce the new side arm had to redesign their pistols to meet this new requirement.

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• Thompson
• Lagarde
• Bullet
• Test
• 1904
• Colt
• Colt's
• .45
• ACP
• Philipine
• Insurection
• 1902
• Moro
• Tribesman

[fitsport07931]

man i love yr videos are most or all of these guns yrs ?

[MrColt45acp]

@fitsport07931 No, I'm cleaning a large collection and filming as I go.  Thanks for watching!

[HOD0R]

actually the best performing caliber on the 1st day of cattle testing was 7.65 mm Luger. one shot through the lungs, dead after 30 seconds. no other caliber came close. the documentation can be found on the internet (google "Background Information on the

United States Pistol Caliber .45 M1911").

the whole set of tests was nowhere near scientific, so please don't talk of it like it has any significance.

[MrColt45acp]

@HOD0R This study was done in 1904 and was conducted as well as it could be for the time period. No balistic gells, no computer modeling, just observations. 9mm vs .45? That's not the discussion here. I am trying to show why the US Army specified .45 cal as the minimum cal for their new side arm in 10 minutes or less.

It was a significant study for it determined the minimum cal at .45. The pistol manufactures had to scramble to redesign a pistol in .45 cal if they wanted to win the contract.

[HOD0R]

@MrColt45acp

the observations weren't even conclusive. I'm not here to start a caliber war, I just feel you granted the Thompson LaGarde tests too much credibility. it's an interesting footnote of history, nothing more.

[MrColt45acp]

@HOD0R fair enough. thanks for watching and commenting

[ITHINKUREALESUK]

excellent video, thanks...... you managed to compress a lot of information into a short time. I'll be watching this one again just to hear all the history again.

[TheDishD]

great vid sir.. so much information in 10 mins.. MrC45apc you are one of my favourite YT channels, thank you and keep doing what your doing it is excellent, best wishes and stay safe.

[RedXlV]

@HOD0R

It seems to me that after the tests, Thompson and LaGarde knew they had no conclusive results, but they also knew that the Army wanted a conclusive recommendation. So lacking conclusive data from the test, they just guessed. What they did know conclusively, entirely independent from the tests, was that the .45 Colt and .455 Webley rounds were battle-proven (and it wouldn't be until later that the 9mm was similarly proven), so going with a .45 caliber or greater pistol was a safe bet.

[0611930024838]

awesome!

[dalesuhr]

theres no MORos in Samar leyte..Caspia is also non MOro name.

[MUSICALGUNNUT45]

If I ever get a time machine the first thing im going to do is go back in time and show John M Browning your videos he'd be proud

[Mr2fierce]

@HOD0R I don't know why your so defensive on your comment, the whole video is about a brief history on why the .45acp came into service and its not meant to start a caliber war, He was just stating the facts on the findings and the history of it. RELAX and take a bite of history