Should Libertarians Abandon Politics? A Debate between Stefan Molyneux and Ernest Hancock
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Stefan Molyneux, host of Freedomain Radio, and Ernest Hancock of Freedoms Phoenix, go head-to-head about the value of political action in securing and maintaining genuine human liberty! Filmed at Libertopia 2011, October 23rd, 2011. To donate, please visit http://www.libertopia.org
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Stefan, you keep making the argument that you cant change anything by education, and you cant change anything by activism, and that the only method is to die and hope that others at some point in the distant future start to understand and apply freedom principles. I'd argue you should do any and everything you can but not set your hopes too high. Once you get 10% of people to believe something, there is a snowball effect on the rest of the population. Calling something what it is isnt enough.
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@SakakiDash Agreed.
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@TheStig000 More like diffrent scales of the same thing. ;) Especialy if you look att the mechanics. Like Taxation/Protection etc
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@SakakiDash So they are similar then?
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@LotharioRowe I think the mafia just sees their actions as being might makes right. Whoever can kill their way to the top gets the respect. Not sure though, never been in the mafia - neither have you, I assume. And furthermore, the government does act like a criminal organization. Whether they realize it or not, they do. So it is a decent analogy.
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I really wish Stefan would stop using the argument "join the mafia and make them stop." It is not a valid analogy. The government does not accept that it is a criminal organization. The mafia accepts that their only reason for existence is crime. With government, the job is not to stop the criminal activity, but rather convince them that their activities are criminal - completely different circumstances than 'joining the mafia.' The more appropriate analogy was "join the teacher's union."
LotharioRowe 4 months ago 12
@LotharioRowe No that is not true, the maffia does not se them selfs as criminal. They know though that part of their activities are seen as criminal by other entities. Just like the state.
SakakiDash 3 months ago 9