David Platt - God Hates & Loves Sinners

David Platt talks about getting into trouble by talking about what is in the Bible.

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• golgatha
• sin
• sinners
• hell
• wrath
• love
• Jesus

[clayhutchins]

@k0smon Genuine love must hate. If God truly and wholly loves justice, he must necessarily hate injustice. If God truly and wholly loves righteousness, he must necessarily hate unrighteousness. If God truly and wholly loves good, he must necessarily hate evil. And if we are evil, unrighteous, and unjust, God must necessarily hate us - he would be a liar and unjust if he didn't! The amazing part is that he also loves us and extends to us grace in Jesus. Place your faith in him - he is good!

[bubbaALLday3]

Awesome video, thanks for posting. I have thought over this question before and this seems to be the best Biblical response. More people need to watch this. Also  Platt brings it back to the cross and Gospel which is essential.

[SamuelKojoYamuah]

Psalm 5:5 AND Romans 5:8 ... UNDERSTAND !!!

[Jrey1976]

@clayhutchins Very well put.

[ObsidianDolphin]

@NexusCapital, the Bible says: "...faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead." (James 2:17) we can't be saved through any good thing we do- or gain God's acceptance, but as a result of having Jesus in your life, He'll give you new desires and aims, (to spread His love and salvation, and give God glory always!) we're on a mission! and we'll give account to Jesus of how we used opportunities and time for Him :) (we're not giving an account for our sins if we're saved :)

[NexusCapital]

If God forgives and forgets all our sins why does it also say every man will give an account for what he has done I think its revelations? Sry just confused

[frmdeath2life]

@mattballinger1 -Genuine & sincere are closely related but sinners cannot perceive the perfect Holiness of God in His love, justice, goodness and yes, hatred. It is His word that determines His nature not the sinner. Please be careful..when we compare the love or justice that we FEEL to God's perfect nature, we are on dangerous ground and make for ourselves an idolatrous god in our own image. His word and whole counsel is rejected because the sinner's god says,"That's not Fair!" Read Rom. 9.

[ApologeticbyNature]

@clayhutchins I believe we should look at the entire tenor of Scripture to learn about God's attributes, not nitpicking specific verses and pitting them against each other.

[ApologeticbyNature]

@clayhutchins Likewise, I will point out that I would never argue against the reality of God's justice and wrath. There is a difference, however, between God bringing wrath upon someone as a consequence of one's sins and God not ultimately loving that person. If wrath were synonymous with hate, then the entire death of Christ would make no sense at all because it would mean Christ didn't even love or care for the people he dies to save.

[ApologeticbyNature]

@clayhutchins I was not saying we should simply throw out the Psalms as theologically useless. On the contrary, the Psalms are part of God's written revelation to us and are therefore extremely valuable. My argument was specifically related to how he was using the Psalms for the sake of shock value to try and make the claim that God does not love everyone. I do not have the time, nor the desire, to go through and make an argument in response to each of those passages you cited.

[ApologeticbyNature]

@frmdeath2life Sorry for not replying to everyones' posts. I had totally forgotten I even posted on this video.

I am not arguing against God's justice or wrath. I am making the argument that God is love. Hate is the complete antithesis of love, and therefore God cannot love someone and hate someone at the same time. God can, however, as a just God, bring down wrath even upon those whom he loves.

[anatesape]

@ApologeticbyNature please use some scripture to back your interesting claims...