Olby's War
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go Keith!!! WOOH!!!!
3 years ago 7
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O'Reilly's a bully and a coward.
3 years ago 6
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Mind if I ask where this is recorded from?
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my point on oreillys viewers being conserative is just a hunch... i have no solid proof of it, but its very possible. just as many of olbermanns viewers are liberals.
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all of what your saying may be true, but what im saying, and what has been my point from the very beg of this debate, is olbermann is catching up in the ratings. i know oreilly has won 77 months in a row... fine, those could just be conservative viewers. but oreillys lead in both the demo and the total used to be very high and it has been cut significantly. do you not notice this? if you compare the ratings right now to ratings from 2 years ago, the difference is clearly noticeable.
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O'Reilly hosting the Factor vs. Olbermann hosting Countdown is a victory for Factor night in and night out. The one anomoly you cite where Olbermann won is hardly a trend. Not an excuse; a fact.
Back to: a win is a win, adding: a bunch of wins is a trend, adding: winning consistently is dominance.
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The ADVERTISERS care about the viewer demographics because they want to advertise their products to the correct audience. The NETWORK cares about the demographic so they can sell air time to the advertisers appropriately. One of the key factors in selling the time is not just "who you got?" but "how many of them?". Therefore, (follow me now) the show with the HIGHER ratings WINS. That is for each demo category and overall.
BTW, newspaper analogy is a bad one.
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and yes, a win is a win, but everyone has their excuses. when olbermann tied oreilly, oreilly fans claimed that "oh olbermann had a special comment, it wasnt a regular show"... it shouldnt matter, regardless of whatever, he attracted his viewers. just typical excuses. even if olbermann wins, oreilly fans say it wasnt by much, or some stupid thing like that. even olbermann fans factor in the viewer difference. its a big deal because if you kill someone in ratings, its more noticeable. am i wrong?
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well there is a reason the demo is 25-54 and not a different age group. they obviously care about that age watching their shows. total viewers is like the people that buy a newspaper, and the demo rating is the people that read it... the readers count. anyone can just buy a newspaper, but the ones who get around to reading shows that they maintain interest, and somehow fox maintains interest in its viewers, but theyre ratings are carefully fading. you might not see it that way but its obvious.
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Gstate:
Countdown is improving, but still losing. Tied demo on night you specified: a night with a guest host.
Maddow, E.D. Hill not part of this discussion, and not programmed opposite 1st run of Factor/Countdown. Irrelevant.
Moral victories typically are straws grasped by losers in terms of win/loss.
Cannot speak for majority of O'Reilly viewers. Surprised you can.
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Gstate:
You are betraying your lack of knowledge about the demo. Advertisers traditionally want younger viewers because they have more disposable income for non-necessities. Older viewers, however have certain products that are age-specific to them. Advertisers do not care how long (length of life)younger ones watch the show. The network programming chief does. Watch who advertises on O'Reilly vs. Olbermann.
And AGAIN: Factor beating Countdown regardless of margin -- a win is a win.
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and dont forget dave, keiths viewership was very low just a few years ago... hell even 1 year ago, his total was horrid, now it cracks a million every night. now, in the demo he has tied him once head to head at 507k, maddow beat ed hill, and keith beat hill as well. that may not be much of a victory, but its a moral victory bc it shows that countdown is a lot closer than people thought he was. majority of oreilly viewers underestimate keith claiming he has "no viewers", which is perposturous.
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This is a battle of wits...with one side (FOX) hopelessly outgunned.
dogstar7 3 years ago 3
Agreed. In this battle of wits Roger Ailes of Fox News who's leading the charge is clearly unarmed. Pit Bull O'Reilly's hiding under his desk. Both are notorious bullies but, for once, it doesn't appear their nastiness is intimidating the other side. Probably because Olbermann's earning his bosses a lot of money and Fox News' right-wing attacks are great advertising.
eyesonfox 3 years ago