Ritvik debate part02
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Respond to this video... It was a circumstantial system as he could not be physically present all the time in so many places at the same time
alextorian82 11 months ago
@JayyPrabhupada which gurus prabhu are you referring to? Because as I know, this is not proper, unless their guru's have instructed them to do so. This again is something that is beside the ritvik system and not the argument at hand. If guru instructs separately to initiate, then this is instruction as per say. But there is no clear evidence that srila prabhupada said that the ritvik system is to replace the parampara system. .
alextorian82 11 months ago
Srila Prabhupada did not have to tell his disciples when the ritvik system would end, as it was a known fact that that system was temporarily being used on special circumstances and not a system that will over throw the entire disciplic succession of the our gaudiya sampradaya. That would automatically discredit Srila Prabhupada for changing the only means of the continuity of our line. I think that is common sense and people need to see more than just one letter.
alextorian82 11 months ago
The ritvik groups are more of a personal vendetta rather than the issue of what Srila Prabhupada said! If it were so, Srila PRabhupada should have talked about this change in the entire disciplic succession line in through perspective to his disciples, but there is only one letter which speaks clearly about the ritvik system and it does not even have a definitive proof of statement about how long it will prolong.
alextorian82 11 months ago
I think Srila Prabhupada has given enough training to his disciples and in his books about this disciplic succession. How can he institute one thing and translate the books of sastra as is. A double standard like that has to be instituted clearly and yet the ritvik system and the group itself has not put forth a letter that clearly states definitely the direct instruction of Srila Prabhupada to permanently instate ritvikism. Because ritvik itself is a temporary system. That's inarguable.
alextorian82 11 months ago
It would be unwise of us to place claim an entire change in our vedic disciplic succession on one letter alone. There have been many letters Srila Prabhupada has written and in this letter alone there is no definitive date Srila Prabhupada placed the system of ritvik initiation as to Srila Prabhuda had not yet given a definitive instruction at that time, but it does not mean to take it in context forever as it was a system that was clearly circumstantial in nature for the vidic system.
alextorian82 11 months ago
What is this jayadvaita swami doing now? The GBC has allowed grand disciples to be initiating gurus while their gurus are still alive. How could this be accepted? So the ritviks are not defeated. If u claim that the disciple can accept disciples after his guru departs, then why in ISKCON there are grand disciples acting as initiating gurus when their guru is still alive? So ultimately there is an error in Iskcon's guru system. must well accept srila prabhupada as guru.
JayyPrabhupada 1 year ago
Prabhupada taught us to love god and not love Him. But that was because of his humility, that is the sign of sadhu. therefore those who are attached to Srila Prabhupada in the wrong way are just fanatics. This is what the bhagavata smashes. This is irreligion posing as religion. fanaticism is love without knowledge, while mental speculation is knowledge without love. Ritviks are are just that, Prabhupad fanatics. Prabhupad wants understanding of his teachings and it being carried out!
alextorian 1 year ago
Srila Prabhupada mentioned time and again that he is just fulfilling the instructions of his Srila Gurudev, and even had broken into tears saying it. Now why would Srila Prabhupada want to change the system of the Disciplic succession that He has hailed from. Why would he want to cut it at his end. That would be something that would displease Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Prabhupada. People are so emotional that they become attached to the person alone and not to the teaching and essence.
alextorian 1 year ago
thats the law!
BADSYNE 1 year ago