Why I advocate the Zeitgeist Movement

As part of the new project of the Zeitgeist movement I made my short contribution describing why I advocate the Zeitgeist movement.......

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[Houshalter]

@agustinbs Any economy is based on profit. Any time you create something of more value than it costs you are creating profit. The only thing that makes capitalism different is creator gets to keep the profit. There is nothing unfair about that.

Please look up time preference theory if you really want to understand interest.

[agustinbs]

@Houshalter In the money system there is no better cost effective business than a financial sector. a Sector that by definition Doesn't produce anything real. The concept of interest is a blackhole in the economy where the money is sucked in exchange of nothing real. Financial should be a state dedication as a economy service, not a profit activity. But money system is a way to accumulate power that corrupts any effort to regulate economy and bring equality, THATS the main problem with the money

[agustinbs]

@Houshalter Profit system is NOT about efficient management of resources is about maximizing your differential advantage over the exchange, it doesn't have anything to do with taking into account the earth and its renewable operation.

Organic food via aeroponics is the most efficient way to create food up to 90% less water and nutrients, ZERO pesticides, the problem as always is the initial cost, inform yourself first.

[agustinbs]

@Houshalter No, no no, man. Your investment payoff system is about PROFIT, profit encourage you exploit whatever you can find at the lowest effort possible. what that means?

Exploit the oil without care about the long run/contamination, it doesn't payoff clean your waste when you manufacture something, nor when you cut a tree and reestablish another one. Or manufacture something that last, you need to manufacture stuff that are periodically consumed.

[Houshalter]

@agustinbs money represents real resources. Prices reflect how scarce each resource is, and therefore determines what people produce and invest in. Really money is no different than pure barter, except instead of having to trade multiple times to get what you want from what you have, you just have to trade what you have for money, then trade the money for what you want. Of course nothing is stopping you from bartering if you want, but using money is vastly superior.

[Houshalter]

@agustinbs investments that pay off the fastest are logically the ones that should be made first. In your system, what investments get made is obviously completely arbitrary because any decent cost/benefit analysis will show these projects to be ridiculous. Vertical farms will still require massive amounts of fertilizer and water, and if they are exposed to the environment there will still be a need for pesticides. If they aren't, well that's just makes it even more costly.

[agustinbs]

@Houshalter Again man, you can't get out of the money box, is not about if we have the money, is about if we have the resources, and we have a lot of them, WE HAVE the resources to get energy without poison the environment, we have the resources to eat healthy food, we have the resource to cure many diseases, we have the resources to house everyone... BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THAT... so ridiculous.

[agustinbs]

@Houshalter When i said vertical farms i was meaning organic food in controlled environment so you DON"T NEED TO USE PESTICIDES. How much worth you your health??? Obviously is cheaper cultivate in horizontal and outdoor way but that isn't renewable, the soil can't resist that. and you need far more water and fertilizers.

WE HAVE The resources to implement that.

[agustinbs]

@Houshalter Solar thermal energy is already being implemented, it works and in the long run they are the more profitable, but you need much more time to return your investment than others. and in a good red distributed in many areas you will always have energy available, also you can store it in liquid salt chambers, is about to combine the several method to overcome their weakness and we HAVE the resource to do that.

[Houshalter]

@agustinbs if you or anyone else is willing to fund it you are free to. If the project actually ends up being worth more than it's cost, it will be profitable, thus increasing people's incentive to fund things like this.