From "Let The Qur'an Speak" and "Vision TV" Shabir Ally talks about apostasy, and how Islam views it, and if it right for Muslims to have laws to kill apostates!
@exmuslimforever lol wat a sick guy u are .. if u dont like something leave it alone wat will u get by criticizing ...... oh i see Jesus paid for your sins so u have nothing to worry about so u keep on doing wat ever u like.... This means we have to simply ignore crazy ppl lyk u
@futbalgopal You are mistaken or maybe acting like you don't know. Islam does command the killing of apostates. There's a sahih hadith that states 'whoever changes his faith kill him" من بدل دينه فاقتلوه. I do enjoy living my life away from islamic dark ideology BUT I will never stop criticizing it and fighting it because it is the worst evil.
@exmuslimforever if you have left islam peacefully go live your life there is no islamic rule of killing this is btw you and your lord he will see to this matter so enjoy this life ...
@rzadan You have not read my comment properly. I am someone who left islam and I do believe that islam orders to kills ALL kuffar including apostates. انا مسلم سابق وانا الان مرتد .
@exmuslimforever show us one which says not to kill apostate and we show you hundreds authentic hadith , saying otherwise. According to quran you must kill anybody who is not muslim ( even people of scripture , ahlol kitab) . Doesnt that include apostate? You better go somewhere else and try to cheat people who know nothing about Islam. We apostates ( mortaddin ) know ever thing about satanic Islam.
AND YOUR GOD IS THE BIGGEST PEDOPHILE ON EARTH HE SHAGGED MARY AND YOUR JESUS GOD WAS BORN AND YOUR GOD IS FACINATED WITRH HUMAN SEX LOOK YOUR BIBLE...
@SoldierofAllah1408 You claimed that no one has been killed for apostacy in Islam. You better read one page from the history of Islam. Starting from Abu Bakr : After the death of your beloved pedophile , murderer and looter prophet ( prophet right ) , many left Islam. Abu Bakr killed many thousands of them. it still continues today. Go to the site called the religion of peace and you will see not one day passes by without muslims killing many other muslims as heretics,apostates and so on.
YES I WILL DO THAT IN EGYPT AND ABOUT SAUDI LOL ITS AGAINST THE LAW HAHAHAHAH EVEN A FOOL LIKE YOURSELF KNOWS THAT TOO WELL HAHAHAH WALLAHI..... I TELL YOU I DONT FEAR ANYONE ACCEPT ALLAH
@SoldierofAllah1408 If you are so sure , come with me to Egypt . We go to Cairo and in the street ( which I show you ) , you screem that you have been a muslim and you have now converted to christianity or better yet to Judaism. I pay for the ticket.
Or you take a bible and go to Saudi Arabia and at the airport tell the policemen that you have converted to christianism or kaffir . If you come back alive I will pay for your ticket and one moth staying there doing Hajj.
@SoldierofAllah1408 In Iran 3600 people were excuted for apostacy 24 years ago. This was admitted by the greatest Ayatol Lah of Iran , Montazeri. There is now one Iranian waiting for execution in the city of Rasht for converting to christianity. Is that enough or do u want more exaples ?
CAN anyone give me a source or tell me from history of people being killed for apostasy against Islam not threats but has been killed for apostasy ????
CHRISTIANITY
Abraham ben Abraham, was burned at the stake in 1749 because he had renounced Catholicism.
Ask yourself why does a religion get so heated at one leaving the faith? Is their no free will? Should you not be concerned about going to heaven? Isn't this all part of gods plan?....No like an unruly child kicking and screaming all voices of dissent and criticism must be silenced. How nice from the religion of peace. (coming from an ex-muslim)
Shabir is like the wolf in sheep clothing, he is a liar and tries to be very sneaky and find his way out for every situation, this guy thinks he is smart but he is as blind and ingnorant as a camel.
The only really objective standard for moral we have is God. Muhammad acted against pretty much everything Jesus said is important. I believe in what Jesus said over what Muhammad said for a lot of very good reasons.
I think you didn't get the distinction I made (again) - these are no commandments for our everyday life.
I already wrote how Jesus summed up the law and the prophets. Not everything in the OT becomes "Sunnah" for us, so to speak - our law is what God said is our law - love your neighbor.
How exactly is it treason to not believe in Islam anymore? Also, to argue that "other do so too" is no argument at all. The perfect religion shouldn't have to argue like this.
@exmuslimforever lol must be pagan.... hindu
futbalgopal 2 weeks ago
@futbalgopal LOL ... you assume that I follow jesus . Fuck Jesus and Fuck Moses and Fuck Ibraheem Fuck all religions.
exmuslimforever 2 weeks ago
@exmuslimforever lol wat a sick guy u are .. if u dont like something leave it alone wat will u get by criticizing ...... oh i see Jesus paid for your sins so u have nothing to worry about so u keep on doing wat ever u like.... This means we have to simply ignore crazy ppl lyk u
futbalgopal 2 weeks ago
@rzadan curse be upon you, you probably live a miserable life.
ViciousBeats16 2 weeks ago
@futbalgopal You are mistaken or maybe acting like you don't know. Islam does command the killing of apostates. There's a sahih hadith that states 'whoever changes his faith kill him" من بدل دينه فاقتلوه. I do enjoy living my life away from islamic dark ideology BUT I will never stop criticizing it and fighting it because it is the worst evil.
exmuslimforever 2 weeks ago
@exmuslimforever if you have left islam peacefully go live your life there is no islamic rule of killing this is btw you and your lord he will see to this matter so enjoy this life ...
futbalgopal 2 weeks ago
@exmuslimforever sorry , my bad
rzadan 1 month ago
@rzadan You have not read my comment properly. I am someone who left islam and I do believe that islam orders to kills ALL kuffar including apostates. انا مسلم سابق وانا الان مرتد .
exmuslimforever 1 month ago
@exmuslimforever show us one which says not to kill apostate and we show you hundreds authentic hadith , saying otherwise. According to quran you must kill anybody who is not muslim ( even people of scripture , ahlol kitab) . Doesnt that include apostate? You better go somewhere else and try to cheat people who know nothing about Islam. We apostates ( mortaddin ) know ever thing about satanic Islam.
rzadan 1 month ago
islam does command killing apostates., there's an authentic hadith for that.
exmuslimforever 1 month ago
What are you talking about ? I dont give mohammads ass ( piss be upon him) what christianity says , I am not christian. Go , suffer
rzadan 1 month ago
@rzadan
I guess you are the Internet killer HAHAHAHAHAHA
That site was built by your founder the satan SINCE YOU SAY MANY ARE BEING KILLED TODAY GIVE ME 1 NAME WITH REFERENCE PLEASE SATAN WORSHIPER
RAPE OF DAUGHTER ALLOWED (Judges 19:24-25)
SILENCE THE WOMEN (I Timothy 2:11-14)
AND YOUR GOD IS THE BIGGEST PEDOPHILE ON EARTH HE SHAGGED MARY AND YOUR JESUS GOD WAS BORN AND YOUR GOD IS FACINATED WITRH HUMAN SEX LOOK YOUR BIBLE...
SoldierofAllah1408 1 month ago
@SoldierofAllah1408 You claimed that no one has been killed for apostacy in Islam. You better read one page from the history of Islam. Starting from Abu Bakr : After the death of your beloved pedophile , murderer and looter prophet ( prophet right ) , many left Islam. Abu Bakr killed many thousands of them. it still continues today. Go to the site called the religion of peace and you will see not one day passes by without muslims killing many other muslims as heretics,apostates and so on.
rzadan 1 month ago
@rzadan
YES I WILL DO THAT IN EGYPT AND ABOUT SAUDI LOL ITS AGAINST THE LAW HAHAHAHAH EVEN A FOOL LIKE YOURSELF KNOWS THAT TOO WELL HAHAHAH WALLAHI..... I TELL YOU I DONT FEAR ANYONE ACCEPT ALLAH
SoldierofAllah1408 1 month ago
@SoldierofAllah1408 If you are so sure , come with me to Egypt . We go to Cairo and in the street ( which I show you ) , you screem that you have been a muslim and you have now converted to christianity or better yet to Judaism. I pay for the ticket.
Or you take a bible and go to Saudi Arabia and at the airport tell the policemen that you have converted to christianism or kaffir . If you come back alive I will pay for your ticket and one moth staying there doing Hajj.
rzadan 1 month ago
@SoldierofAllah1408 In Iran 3600 people were excuted for apostacy 24 years ago. This was admitted by the greatest Ayatol Lah of Iran , Montazeri. There is now one Iranian waiting for execution in the city of Rasht for converting to christianity. Is that enough or do u want more exaples ?
rzadan 1 month ago
CAN anyone give me a source or tell me from history of people being killed for apostasy against Islam not threats but has been killed for apostasy ????
CHRISTIANITY
Abraham ben Abraham, was burned at the stake in 1749 because he had renounced Catholicism.
SoldierofAllah1408 1 month ago
Ask yourself why does a religion get so heated at one leaving the faith? Is their no free will? Should you not be concerned about going to heaven? Isn't this all part of gods plan?....No like an unruly child kicking and screaming all voices of dissent and criticism must be silenced. How nice from the religion of peace. (coming from an ex-muslim)
mutalix 3 months ago
Shabir is like the wolf in sheep clothing, he is a liar and tries to be very sneaky and find his way out for every situation, this guy thinks he is smart but he is as blind and ingnorant as a camel.
satancreatedallah 3 months ago
@muslimwhacker it is not tresonous, unless it is because you are going to become hostile or do treason...mere apostacy has no punishment
RockStarNorthSide 3 months ago
LOL SHAME SHAME !!!
you cant hold a convert otherwise.. only way kill him or her LO SHAME SHAME
frank0067 3 months ago
@whitejewel101
mohammad the pedophile! mohammad the pig! mohammad the rat! mohammad the snake!
rddaos 3 months ago
@whitejewel101 Why is leaving your death-cult "treasonous"?
muslimwhacker 4 months ago
@whitejewel101
"what is your objective standard then"
The only really objective standard for moral we have is God. Muhammad acted against pretty much everything Jesus said is important. I believe in what Jesus said over what Muhammad said for a lot of very good reasons.
mawa89g 5 months ago
@whitejewel101
I think you didn't get the distinction I made (again) - these are no commandments for our everyday life.
I already wrote how Jesus summed up the law and the prophets. Not everything in the OT becomes "Sunnah" for us, so to speak - our law is what God said is our law - love your neighbor.
How exactly is it treason to not believe in Islam anymore? Also, to argue that "other do so too" is no argument at all. The perfect religion shouldn't have to argue like this.
mawa89g 5 months ago