Doctor Who s5: a response. PART 3

A rant concluded.

Me: http://professor-spork.livejournal.com/

Angie: http://zombres.livejournal.com/

The Moffat article: http://news.scotsman.com/doctorwho/Time-Lad-scores-with-sex.2535185.jp

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[cyberwilkz]

I guess if scriptwriters for any series worried too much about keeping things consistent you wouldn't get such varied, interesting and exciting storylines.

[Lexpelliarmus]

(Continued) meaning The Battle at Canary Wharf,Pretty much all of the Christmas Specials,Everything that happened in Journey's end-all 21st century invasions-NEVER HAPPENED. At least,according to Moffat. He said he wanted to make it so that the public weren't as aware of Aliens as they were when RTD wrote it. This has always upset me because,well,he basically erased everything that happened in series 1-4. ;_;

[Lexpelliarmus]

I agree with everything you've said! Consistency is a big thing with me too,and it gets kind of hard for me to accept things that differ so much from what we've already been drilled into our minds,like fixed and flux points in time,things you can and can't mess with,who The Doctor will and won't save,etc. Something that really bugs me though is the series 5 finale. I read somewhere that Steven Moffat had said that because the reset the Universe,none of alien invasions ever occurred on Earth...

[tzlifts]

And... and.... before I get bored of this subject entirely (which is taking a surprisingly long time I'll admit) I think if you haven't already already you should watch Coupling in order to understand what he may have meant by that (awfu) quote. The men of Coupling are in a "state of crippled apology" because they deserve to be, not because relationships are unfair. The women OTOH are portrayed as confident and competent, only flawed by their willingness to forgive their dimwitted boyfriends.

[tzlifts]

Point 2 (of however many): I think your take-away from ACC that the Doctor can now "save everyone" is wrong on several levels. 1, he only decides to "save" KS because he sees evidence that he could have been a good man. 2, he decidedly does not save Abigail -- in fact her tragedy contains a lesson about life and loss that seems meant to mirror the Doctor's own coming to terms with lost love. Watch the "one last night with your beloved" scene again -- it's right up your alley IMO.

[tzlifts]

I thought your critique was well put, don't get me wrong, BUT w. respect I think demanding consistency from Dr Who is silly. Even Russell's era wasn't as consistent as you make it seem. After all, many of your niggles about Moffat's "inconsistency" come from strories from Russell's era-- whom do we blame there? And furthermore, why is Russell's version the definitive version? SM's simply doing the same as RTD: picking the bits from the past he likes and telling the stories he wants to tell.

[Ravenclaw2313]

This is all just too big for me to comment on. I can say that I love Matt Smith and I really enjoy Amy Pond and her strength. However, I don't think people who prefer RTD are bad or wrong. You're comparison to Coke vs. Pepsi was spot on. Also you were right about the lack of scare. I scare easily so I didn't miss it much, but I notice it now that you mentioned it. Interesting. Judging from the promo though it might get scary. Great videos. Love hearing your opinions on this.

[LilRonin01]

Re: Closed time loop: This is not a Moffet only thing. RTD did plenty of stuff like that, especially with Rose, the Master, Donna, and Jack. Admittedly, not in the same way, and certainely not as confusing, however in a rather back handed way. I don't think theres anything wrong with it, mainly because it makes the series alot more interesting rather than the Doctor being hijakced into a mission by the time lords

[idiotjello]

(cont) but I sort of felt like River does not seem like a person that the Doctor ~would~ trust and admire, albeit the awesomeness. I am dying to find out who River is in s6 if not just to know what the hell I am supposed to think of her.

And sorry for the rant. I have ~feelings~. None of this was supposed to be negative or character-bashing. I love Moff's work and Matt and Karen and Alex and ESPECIALLY ARTHUR. :D

tl;dr I agree. A lot.

[idiotjello]

you just don't know what you're supposed to be feeling. Should we happily go along with Amy and the Doctor funtiem adventures or should we remember that omg she has a fucking boyfriend and extreme abandonment issue. For River Song, I agree that she seems intimidating to me and frankly terrifying. I personally see her as way too violence and guns for someone like the Doctor to fall in love with? I felt like the show was trying to tell me "omg River is badass the doctor is gonna marry her so hard