The Case for Atheism

Agnosticism versus atheism versus gods and goblins

Follow-up video is at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZA0D5-DHSI

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[newexperiment]

The definition of exist that you use in the end would mean ideas do not exist.

[stefbot]

Quite so!

[brickmastertube]

@stefbot

Actually you could say that ideas "exist" in the same way that consciousness "exists" as an effect of matter and energy. But then in the same way, ideas are subjective and have nothing to do with universal and objective reality and truth.

[JennJenification]

@pauloscum Atheists and agnostics tend to be humanists morally, and are just as capable of comprehending right and wrong w/o the imagined coercion of an imaginary deity. We (I am an agnostic myself) operate out of a sense of genuine, natural compassion and empathy, not under duress. Do you only do right because some superstition threatens recourse if you do wrong? If so, who is more moral?

[z3r0Projects]

@panzeraid WOW! So you must believe in a SHITLOAD of gods then....?!

[z3r0Projects]

@MagnesiumAlloy Me neither... I DO however see a lot of people killing each other and the planet that keeps them alive and most of em seem to find a lot of comfort in the idea that a.) God will forgive them as long as they say "sorry!". b) Everything is part of a 'big plan' and basically bare little responsibility for their actions. ( which matches up nicely with "a" ) and any evidence that might suggest they are delusional is just god fucking with them...

[ClumsyRoot]

@TollScott

There is no evidence that ghosts exist, and Pac-man emerges from physical processes.

[ClumsyRoot]

@TollScott

I agree with your objection; to dogmatically assert that the only things that can exist are those made of (or emerging from) matter and energy is unfounded.

Nonetheless, this is not an argument for a God of any kind, since we have NO reasons to think that any "nonmaterial" entities DO exist. And those who would claim that there is a "supernatural" realm have the daunting task of both defining the term and explaining what it means. Good luck with that. :)

[z3r0Projects]

@TollScott Pacman doesn't believe in us either... He has no reason to...

[z3r0Projects]

@ClumsyRoot The point is that with the knowledge we posses today , there is no reason whatsoever to assume god exists... Anyone claiming to know that god DOES exists has no more ground to make that claim than someone claiming unicorns exist. God does NOT exist UNTIL there is evidence to suggest otherwise. Which is much more rational than to believe he DOES exist until there is evidence to suggest he doesn't...

[pauloscum]

what about morals & ethics under athiesm in reference to not being able to get a "should" statement from an "is" statement wile it is possible for an athiest to hold preference it is arguable that athiesm finds itself connected to nihilism with a complete absence of ethics and morals as outlined in several videos on youtube i would like to hear u ideas on this