Expand Your Mind: Getting a Grasp on Consciousness (Part4)

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[Matthewonutube]

CIA men walking out of windows ? That old chestnut ? What a lot of nonsense. never happened.

[DmtShaman]

It did happen, but he is refering to the CIA experiments in which they gave it to people without telling them...if you dont have the right intention entering these altered spaces you can be turned inside out...

[JAKEHARRIS281]

@DmtShaman They probably took way too much LSD and felt like they were in a dream or something.

[reptilespantoso]

@DmtShaman yes.. set setting substance - interacting parameters.

the guy is trying (desperately) to "neutralise" Shulgin's simple and undeniable observations. (about propaganda)

In doing so, the observation is exemplified.

The propaganda starts to look like the religion of fools.

[dayvconsir]

Look up MK ULTRA. Risk is a stupid reason to outlaw something. We let people jump motorcycles off of buildings, yet we don't let them use LSD conscientiously. It's very sad a man such as Dr. Shulgin get's so little respect for his research.

Though if you are using psychadelics as well as any drug in massive quantities, inappropriate environments like driving car while intoxicated, etc. You are part of the problem and are ruining an otherwise good thing for everyone else.

[sammy63129]

There used to be a time when it was wrong to disect the human body. Those involved would have to hide their research. Dr. Shulgin may or may not be a crackpot, but the possible benefits of his research warrants his disregard for the general feelings of society towards mind altering drugs. The MC at this event is either covering his ass, or he is ignorant of the chances that the great people of science took when they set about on their passions of discovery. Either way, the MC is a coward.

[711mind]

I want what they're on . 

[khara2zift]

I had a friend who had a friend in the CIA who said that agents in the 60s walked through a window while on alcohol.

[LemonLimeLaughter]

@LemonLimeLaughter

and see how much he knew about the CIA experiments. After he was given LSD, something happened to him, probably depression from being given LSD by his own colleagues as a means of truth extraction. Frank was taken to New York and kept in an apartment, without being given any psychiatric help. A WEEK LATER after the LSD trip, he committed suicide.

[LemonLimeLaughter]

@DmtShaman

What really happened to Frank Olson, the poor guy who jumped out of the window, was the following. Frank Olson was working for the CIA and was thinking about quitting because he believed that it was a corrupt institution and was not comfortable with the experiments they were conducting. This worried his CIA colleagues because they were afraid Frank was going to make all the experiments public. LSD was seen as a truth serum by the CIA,so they gave it to Olson to interrogate him...

[ontariobuds]

@Matthewonutube well somebody did go out of a window, but I bet is was not by choice....

[jayyyg84]

yeah i superalitertively agree, the guy at the end is a mr.Richard!