What's the Healthiest Diet?

We know it's a plant-based diet, but how much emphasis on starches versus veggies? Two medical giants, John McDougall MD and Joel Fuhrman MD, discuss and debate the question.

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• John
• McDougall
• Joel
• Fuhrman
• diet
• ideal

[Rad1ka1]

Im with McDougall!

[Mentat1231]

Fuhrman focuses too much on what he thinks "ought to be" the case, rather than on reality. He talks about "white rice" as if that instantly disqualifies the diet of Asians, who have fantastic health. He talks about "a diet that can sustain people to middle age", and I wonder if he realizes that the people McDougall is talking about live to be 90-100 *routinely* with excellent health. The highest concentration of centenarians on Earth is in Okinawa. They live on sweet potatoes and rice.

[jammatoonarmy]

the ego of men, tring to make things more complicated and their for themselves cleaver/superior. when ppl start to amke something overtly complicated, is more oftern than not, that their full of sh*t. McDougall and esselstyn are taking from expirance. documented expirance, with great success. if your not getting your cal intake in your diet, your going to crash..how could you not??

[cheeseschrister]

The five new food groups in America are beer, wine, liquor, grease and prescriptions.

[ConcreteRiver]

"Dr Mills, Have you been to Peru?"

"No, But I read about it"

"Well I've been to Peru and the corn is huge and the potatoes are huge and the people are small"

Dr.McDougall just owned both Fuhrman and Mills. F U to the Starch haters.

[ConcreteRiver]

Dr Fuhrman is well intentioned but his claim to obtain the majority of your calories from vegetables is unrealistic. For example you would need to eat over 10kg of broccoli to obtain just 1200 calories. Or how about 20kg of kale to get 2000 calories. Who has time to do this??!! Starch based diet with the addition of fruits and vegetables is the optimal diet for human beings and science and history have proven this.

[NoCommentChick]

Great stuff @headveg.

[troecurov]

his own life the truth...no one creature who live in nature eats cooked food,bread, drink coffee,(another very very bad kind of drug and very addictive...try to give it to cat even with milk even if it thirsty ...tea...very bad ...make people nervous,worry all the time have no focus on the work ,irritated, after they want to drink wine to make them calm ...)these doctors probably should read one of his books,and let them try to find something wrong in there...

[troecurov]

I think the worst thing people eat is bread...another is fry potatoes ,and fried food in general , pasta is not the best,soda ...alcohol ... if people eliminate these products they definitely will get better ...these very good and very brave doctors go against the system,which make people sick...but they make things very complicated and they have no agreement between themselves and many many years ago there were great teachers,and explorers Dr,. H Shelton as an example probably who prove by ..

[Mentat1231]

@lucasboden

Sweet potatoes do, by far, make up the bulk of the traditional Okinawan diet. But they are also a starch, which goes along with McDougall's point. And they eat pork on special occasions (once or twice a year). They don't eat many other grains, since rice grows naturally where they are.

Long-lasting civilizations that lived on wheat would include most of the Near East contries, who have been using this as staple for 10,000 years.