Practical Drum Comparison Part 1 Saiga-12

These videos show the real story about Alliance Armament and the wraithmaker and MD Arms and the MD-20. These are must see!

Category:

Entertainment

Tags:

• MD
• Arms
• 20rd
• Saiga
• 12
• MD-20
• Drum
• Full
• Auto
• 12ga
• gauge
• AK
• Shotgun
• Fullauto
• Machinegun
• Alliance
• Armament
• Wraithmaker

[raymarz97]

Mike, maaan u look tired. Don't spend ANY more time responding to these "sneaky lying jack-asses".

-kingratt2-

[hellyeahdrum]

I was very tired. I filmed it around 2 in the morning. I also spent much time (days) preparing my response. Took some time to figure out exactly what they did to rig their videos. I'm done. I almost filmed a 4th video reproducing the fte's by removing some of the lead shot from the shells (like they did) but said screw it. Would have taken to long to rig that many shells. I'm more worried about making stuff work. To spend my time making something not work is just a damn waste and dumb!!!

[osp80]

who the hell would want a drum open on the sides anyway especially in a "combat" shotgun,no telling what kinda crap would get in their if you dropped it or fell in the mud with it or whatever

[nozzghoull]

I've shot the MD Arms drum and the wraithmaker. I'm on 400 rounds on the MD Arms with no issues. The wraithmaker is on the floor in my garage where it belongs, nothing but feed problems since day one. I actually feel like a sucker admitting I own one due to its cost. As someone mentioned, the open sides of it is not practical. Go with MD Arms people. I tried to return my wraithmaker due to all the problems and they were rude and blamed me for it's issues.

[mlmartis]

AA makes crappy products. Your lifetime warranty really shows that you care about your product and customer. I wanted to suggest that you try to start producing drums and mags for the Saiga rifles, such as the 7.62 or .223, since there is a big market for these guns but no drums available without modification to the gun itself, since they have no bullet guide. Good luck with your company.

[GlessWVU]

You guys make the best Saiga 12 drums. I just wish they were 20 dollars cheaper

[vampire847]

alright I am new on the saiga forum... I havent even posted and dont own a saiga-12 YET! and I dont doubt your drum is superior with zero ak and saiga experience based purely on my military experience and engineering mindset...now my biggest question is... how many mikes are involved in this scandal!?!?!

[raven66crowley]

I agree, just seeing that AA does not let you leave a text comment tells you somethig.

[volkov545]

theres a reason these video allow responses and are highly rated.. wheres AA's don't.. and are poorly rated.. Honesty and customer reviews

[paulyski]

Also, even if they didnt tamper with it to prevent it from cycling fast on full auto, there is a damn big difference between their adjustments to YOUR gun & changing a spring setting. They just scream dishonesty it seems. My family has mostly engineers, you cant B.S. technically savvy people without losing ALL credibility.

I will be ordering YOURS soon.

However, why does yours seem (on vids) to misfeed on the 3rd round of rapid fire at times? I have seen 2 vids where this happened. Is it fixed?

[paulyski]

I just recently bought my Saiga 12. I am not as knoweledgable about this gun as I will be in a couple of months of research & tinkering.

However, as a Psychotherapist, I pride myself on my ability to detect ones affect when they are lieing. Watching their comparison I just felt they were being underhanded. Their kinda dumb too, they already had your drum out of box in the begining, guess they forgot to re-pack after messing with it.

[angurisloud]

Good job, thanks for taking the effort!~

[cyphre]

Note for next time: post the relevant links in the description to more easily arrive to the full report :P